Ohene is a man of many talents. Not only can he rap his ass off, dude is quite verse in just about every instrument you can think of. In the above clip, we get a intimate look at dude putting together a Motown inspired track without the use of samples. Yeah… real talent right here.
Is Shake implying sampling doesnt take real talent?
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“i made yo asses … !!!”, this whole video has star quality, big ups 2 shake 4 posting this on 2dopeboyz …
Yes he is. Why are all these elitist hip-hoppers committing genocide on the craft?
Speaking of elitists, Tyler the Creator makes original hip-hop beats without samples. Why not post his music?
This is dope, though. I’ve just seen a lot of sample-bashing lately.
Not only is he not using samples, he’s playing live instruments. I’m truly impressed!
Shake is not dissing sampling, he’s qouting a line from the video.
tbh, I most of my beats from scratch and have a harder time sampling. so i dont discredit people who do it well. plus sampling is the foundation the classic hip hop sound anyway. that being said, what he just did is not that impressive, believe me. Its actually pretty damn easy if you know what you’re doing, and he does.
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Pissed me off when it said “support real music”…
Hot an Original Bringin that Beat Back !
Sampling a Motown joint is waaay easier than composing one from scratch! We’re not talking about playing a synth driven beat but capturing the Motown feel y’all. Regognize the talent! This IS amazing. Props to Shake for putting this up!
Sampling was, is and always will be the foundation of hip hop. That being said, my man here is really talented and anyone who truly loves hip hop shouldn’t care at all about how a joint was made. This is as much hip hop as anything that’s sampled.
u can only sample THE PAST … u can’t sample the future, this takes the art4rm further, this is evolution 4 the craft of rap music, nebody who thinks sampling is easier than playing an instrument really has no clue … !!! obviously the sample police feels threatened by this video, bcuz shake NEVER 1NCE wrote that sampling takes no talent …
^^^ if you don’t play an instrument, you have no clue how easy it was for him to be able to do that. I got the impression that he knows how easy that shit is too. Motown’s hits are great songs, but they’re for the most part very simple.
Oh Yes I will take my time to support REAL MUSIC!! Amazing Talent!!!
“Props to Shake for putting this up!”-12 ***Props to Shake!!!
It’s almost easy to lose sight of the fact that Ohene played all the instruments him. That makes this a little more that just a beat. This is a production in the truer sense of the word.
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If people are so caught up in being “true” to Hip hop, why use a drum machine or computer software to make beats? That’s not how the pioneers started, they djayed the beats LIVE! This argument is SOO ridiculous. Someone saying that making a beat from scratch isn’t that hard if you can play instruments? Duh, the hard part is ACTUALLY learning to PLAY an instrument, and this cat plays 3. And people who think Hip hop’s foundation has historically been samples should study more, Kurtis Blow used LIVE instruments as did Whodini and Bam. Finally, if you tear a piece of the Mona lisa and blow it up and frame it, do you think that piece that you ripped from the original is equal or more creative? It’s a PIECE of a LARGER more thought out work. Sorry. You can’t say the guy who tossed a plate in the microwave and heated it up is better than the chef, who did the seasons and kneeded doe and all those things. Let Hip hop grow up and stop being traditionalist.
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I meant “dough” and to defend Shake, he NEVER said ANYTHING about sampling not being an art which it is.
^^^ if you don’t play an instrument, you have no clue how easy it was for him to be able to do that. I got the impression that he knows how easy that shit is too. Motown’s hits are great songs, but they’re for the most part very simple.
silence said this on February 14th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
^^Pretty much summed it up. Sampling is a more difficult task because you’re forced to be original with how you chop the sample and put it back together. I play live instruments and I can tell you anyone who knows how to play can recreate this sound amongst other things with ease. Ohene is nice though.
Flipping a Sample is easy???? OHhhhh Try re-making a J Dilla joint then come back to me and let me know if Sampling isnt as difficult as making a joint from scratch… J Dilla alos played live instruments as well… thats why is the greatest producer all time… THIS VIDEO HERE IS GREAT!!
Never said that samplers aren’t ill, some are genius. Just saying several things, when you compare a Quincy Jones who does orchestration or a Jon Brion who does the same, there’s a LOT more involved. From understanding, instruments and their relation to each other tone-wise, to placement in the musical landscape. We’re not just talking about throwing some beat together here with two or three notes. I mean actually knowing what EACH instrument does and why. There is a reason one approach relies on the other. sample based producers need musicians and not the other way around. And I play piano as well. Ps. Dilla wasn’t considered the greatest UNTIL he died, which is unfortunately how fans typically respond to people they sleep on.
Anyone saying it’s easier to map the tempo of an ALREADY well orchestrated song(with an intro, bridge and outro), or chop said song into to pieces and play portions of that song phrase by phrase to a drum loop doesn’t know what Gamble and huff or Quincy Jones did and anyone saying a MOTOWN track is easy to create from scratch should research the “Funk brothers” and learn about James Jamerson who were ALL from Jazz.
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one thing I will agree with you on. James Jamerson was a bad muthafucka, and underappreciated as fuck. And of course actually orchestration is harder than sampling, but Ohene wasn’t really doing that. He wasn’t showcasing mastery of anything he was showcasing basic knowledge. I think because Hip Hop fans aren’t used to seeing people who can actually play instruments make beats, we overrate people that do. Musicians like this are commonplace, and to some degree expected in other genres. I’m not trying to hate because his shit was actually good, its just not that impressive.
Are we seriously arguing about if sampling is “harder” than creating? That’s not at all the point. I think we are confusing aesthetics with level of difficulty. If you like sample based hip-hop (and for some reason you don’t like live instrumentation), that’s cool. That’s your personal preference. & of course it takes a level of creativity to be a Dilla, Premo, Kanye, etc. Nobody is saying otherwise. Cats like Ohene, Quik, Battlecat, etc that sample less should not be seen as antagonistic to the legendary sample based producers. No more than Shaq’s style of post-up, out-muscle basketball is an insult to Gervin’s more finesse style. HOWEVER, Shaq was very much a threat to centers who weren’t talented, they were just tall. Just as this level of musicality in hip-hop is a threat to producers who sample a song that was ALREADY a hit, add a few elements to it, a “make” it a “new” hit.
@silence I’m not attacking you, brother (or sister), I’m just not seeing where you coming from. Can you make your name clickable to a website or YouTube page that shows what you’re talking about?
I have the impression that you guys think Ohene can’t make a sampled beat lol. He already DID that a loooong time ago, look up his tribute cd to Nina Simone, which sampled her songs, or check Inner City Soul to see how dope beats he made with samples. Now he just moved on to composing his own melodies, can’t hate on that people. Everyone can (and has to) evolve and progress, it’s the only right way to go!
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