The day after The Wonder Years hit shelves (and iTunes), 9th sat down with Page31 to discuss a few topics. From working with Raekwon, defending Mac Miller, teaching at Duke University, shedding a tear after Jay laid his verses down for Threat, playing beats for Beyonce and Destiny’s Child for three hours straight, not being involved on Drake’s Sophomore album (despite rumored tracklists floating around) and more.
Better not nobody say a bad word about that dude man. Man, I blast people on twitter man. I might hit somebody in the face for saying something bad about Mac Miller man. Because he just breathes positivity, and I love positive people, and I hate negative people. Nobody is connecting with their fans the way he is, and it’s completely honest. He’s not trying to be anything he’s not, which is a bad epidemic in Hip-Hop; you got a whole lot of niggas lying. Doing things, and being things that they’re not because they think that gets them somewhere. Mac Miller is totally opposite. He’s from Pittsburgh, he loves Hip Hop, he likes to party at his shows, and his shows are incredible. I’m not on the Mac Miller payroll either, he don’t pay me to say this. [click for full interview]
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Just cause he’s positive and honest doesn’t mean he can rhyme worth shit
Don’t care what 9th says, just because he’s positive doesn’t mena his music is good. Just look at Lil B.
blogs like this one, unfortunately, are the number 1 problem with underground hip hop. Mac Miller has that oldschool rhyme skill, he IS positive, his style isn’t trying to copy anyone, etc.
No, Mac Miller ain’t Evidence, no his lyrics aren’t on the level of Nas, but I don’t see all these other boom-bap cats being held up to the same level of critique. Mac is a fun dude, on and off the mic. The End.
Mac Miller being positive doesnt take away the fact hes still a average ass rapper..I can name a thousand rappers off the top of my head that can rap circles around him
I’ve been to a mac show. It sucked.
@james Mac Miller doesnt have old school rhyme skill, alot of times his flow is choppy if you want to look at it from a technical perspective..only thing old school bout him is he likes old school beats, only thing good about the kid is he knows how to rap fast but he really aint saying anything at all..theres nothing he can do that every other rapper cant do
^ really ? do it, name them
@4th names the 1000 rappers b. i need to step my itunes up
ASHER ROTH > mac miller
anyone besides Wiz groupies and people that don’t know rap know it’s true.
9th wonder must be on that stuff to defend a lame ass white boy like mac miller with his trailer park rap
If you think about it.. a lot of rappers that are labeled ‘good’ rappers suck ass.. I do see why Mac Miller gets so much criticism, but I don’t see why other rappers don’t..
As a rapper, Mac Miller is on the same level as Big Sean, Wiz Khalifa and those other clowns that get hype nowadays..
Arguably the 2 biggest albums this year (C4 and WTT) suck major ass yet people eat it up like they’re Illmatic and Reasonable Doubt..
9th is such a hypocrite. This is the dude who trashed Watch The Throne after only Otis dropped because it didn’t “change the game” or “inspire him to go out and make new music”. He also didn’t like “the progression in production style”, which is quite obviously a bad thing in his mind, since his style and drum kits is the exact same as it was a decade ago. I used to be a huge 9th fan but he became bitter, stale and delusional, and took his whole “I’m a professor” thing way too far…he should go away and Phonte should go back to ignoring him.
Asher Roth > Mac Miller
Seconded.
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@word… I have been to a mac miller show. it was in kansas city and it was one of the best shows ive ever been to. ive seen kweli, snoop, wayne, tech n9ne,krit, and others live and mac was the best performer out of all of them. I didn’t really like him that much before i went to his show but seeing how good of a performer he was made me like him a lot more. He may be not as good of a lyricist as other rappers but sometimes i like to just listen to feel good, fun music instead of depressing lyrics about how someones from the hood.
i like his music but he a real cocky dude talking about he doesnt deal with a&r’s man maybe if you put out some new shit 9th wonders beats are so predictable now some type of soul sample with the same kick snare and clap sounds and pattern he only big because of bein on jay-z album THIS nigga hates on kanye so much and niggas like swizz beats because they know how to play instruments kanye chops his sampels up to the point you dont know what sample it is and swizz beats can play his own instruments nigga had the nerve to say the beats on MBDTF were wack
9th really needs to jump off the dude’s dick. Mac Miller is whack, and like most have already said just because he’s positive, and is fun doesn’t mean he ain’t whack. And trust me ain’t the one connecting to his fans the most. Check out Sapient of Sandpeople. I have no relation with the dude, but yet me and him are always havin’ convos on Twitter. Mac Miller is just a corporate mainstream zombie designed to make our society that much more ignorant.
Get off his dick 9th
9th is such a hypocrite. This is the dude who trashed Watch The Throne after only Otis dropped because it didn’t “change the game” or “inspire him to go out and make new music”. He also didn’t like “the progression in production style”, which is quite obviously a bad thing in his mind, since his style and drum kits is the exact same as it was a decade ago. I used to be a huge 9th fan but he became bitter, stale and delusional, and took his whole “I’m a professor” thing way too far…he should go away and Phonte should go back to ignoring him.
Y’all are acting as if 9th’s opinion is the final word on the matter or something. It ain’t even that serious, I promise.
Man some of this dudes beats are wack, super simple, repetitive and dry.
I couldn’t listen all the way through his latest album.
He always looks and sounds bitter, too. Not a good look.
pauly dee i think you need to check the comments on lil waynes psa
His music sucks. He is a little kid rapping about weed and truly has no place in hip hop. Supposedly he is a bad live performer as well. Lol. Funny how the points 9th defends this kid with is the same one’s people crack on him for. He definitely didn’t help the young one in this case. Whack Miller must have slobbered on the penis to get this recognition.
Yall fools stupid if u think Im a take the time to name 1000 rappers but I’ll give u some white rappers more talented than Mac: Asher Roth, Luke Christopher, Hoodie Allen, and OnCue
FUCK MAC MILLER AND FUCK THIS NIGGER FOR WORKING WITH HIM
First I Would Like To Say, All Of 9th Wonder’s Drum Patterns Sound The Same. been Using The Same One Since Threats, And Let Me Point Something Out, Ppl That Say Mac Miller Is Whack, Say That Casey Veggies & Dom Kennedy Are Tight. Both of Their Flows Are Fucking Terrible But They Get So Much Praise On 2dopeboyz, And Mac Actually Does Have Substance. “I’ll Be There” Is One Of Those Examples. When Ppl Become Successful, They Become Vulnerable To Hate. Mac Miller Is One of Those Victims
Mac Miller is dope…everybody needs to get off his nuts…he’s getting money and he’s younger than prolly 80% of the people who visit this site…
Leave Mac alone…he’s getting money and you aren’t. Shut the hell up and go make music if you are so much better.
9th should work with Asher Roth…that would be dope
It’s sad to see someone like 9th act like this. I have a lot of love towards him and the whole scene he helped create because he played a HUGE role in putting NC on the map as far as Hip Hop is concerned. I was in High School just as LB was starting to get buzz and that had a huge effect on the entire community here in Durham. 9th was always a very down to earth and inspiring figure, a lot of folks here probably never would have followed their dreams as far as music goes, if it weren’t for him.
But there are a lot of signs nowadays pointing towards the fact that he has gotten a little too greedy. I understand it’s a business and no one should expect him to be handing shit out, but telling people that they need to take out a bank loan (unless they’re on his label) for his beats? And that he won’t “sleep outside someone’s [Drake's] door with a demo CD” – in other words, Drake didn’t get on his knees and beg 9th for a beat so he won’t make the effort? Even though Drake is huge now and has been vocal about being a fan since Day 1? There is a lot of… discontent…. in the NC Hip Hop community with regards to how 9th handles his business and supports the local scene. See Jozeemo..
I just wish the man would go back to his roots, stay humble, and focus on making the best music possible. Thinking he’s beneath doing his own leg work just because he has his catalog and record label seems foolish and makes him look bad. I wish him nothing but the best, but c’mon man..
mac miller has a terrible rapping voice. dude sounds like a middle schooler that raps with his retainers on. Dead*@dudes defending him by saying hes young,positive and getting money. It doesnt change the fact that hes wack & boring.
Like any passionate opinionated person 9th is going to put his foot in his mouth sometimes. He’s gonna hit someone for dissing Mac Miller for real? C’mon now. Someone should confront 9th about that on camera and maybe smack him one time.
The argument has already been proven. Just cause you’re positive and true doesn’t make you dope. Mac Miller is really a weak rapper. No soul or oompth to his shit. I saw that video where he’s like in a backroom casino or something and that shit is just bland and flat. Only the young kids that have no soul(it’s not their fault the modern media reared them) love him.
And for the record I love 9th. Wonder Years is my second fave hiphop album of the year so far after Saigon’s. And nope I don’t like the Miller track.
And on an extra note, even tho he stole that Lord Finesse beat, where’s the real Lord Finesse collabo? Won’t happen cause Finesse is not a sellout and stays true.
@4th I know all of them already. 995 more to go dog
This interview really made me lose a lot of respect for 9th Wonder. His attitude and view of his role in Hip-Hop is disgusting. What a shame!
So we HAVE to like somebody just cos he’s positive?!? Get the fuck outta here. Mac Miller is fucking wack, he is a musician, therefore judgement is based on his music, not his personality. And I think his music of horrible, so I don’t like him. cool?
I’m sick of this whole attitude that if you don’t like somebody you’re a “hater”, it’s bullshit. He obviously has fans, let those fans breathe back positivity, for those of us who don’t like him just leave it alone and let us keep moving.
mac miller sucks. who cares what his outlook on life is. critique and critical thinking is what makes people better. not dickriding.
First off 9th has an opinion like anybody else so don’t crucify the man for it. Second, we all know Mac ain’t no lyrical god or nothin but he has the basics of how to rhyme down and he knows how to rap. Plus he’s young, give him time to grow as an artist.
And look at where mainstream rap and what kids like is now compared to 5 years ago. You can’t tell me that shit aint like 10 times better. At least cats are making an attempt to put lyricism back at the forefront. Nah cats like j. Cole, mac miller, drake and big sean aint the next nas’s and pac’s like people make them out to be but they make good music and I think thats showin progression in the game.
^^^WHO are u comparing them to by the way??? which rappers from 5 years ago?
I dont hate Mac Miller.. i hate his fans who thinks he’s so nice at rapping when he’s just average..
haha i dont know why everyones so suprised. remember when 9th so-signed lilB?
oohhhhh yeeeeaaaah.
haha i dont know why everyones so suprised. remember when 9th co-signed lilB?
oohhhhh yeeeeaaaah.
@billyclint
I’m just speakin about the game in general as far as the mainstream market and whats considered “hot” not any particular rappers. People now are actually trying to put effort into their lyrics and bein good at their craft as opposed to trying to find a hit single to sell ringtones or havin some corny ass dance which is what the game was 5 years ago. There were a lot of niggas in the game who couldnt rhyme for shit flat out. I could easily name a list of mc’s nicer than mac but dude aint as horrible as yall make him out. Theres always gonna be someone better than whats popular. Just let homie enjoy his shine while he got it.
Mafuckas like D4l or the shop boyz man, I dont know. It seems like the game was overrun with people like that.
he honestly has a flow that comes up positive for me not caring
Everyone has their opinion, if Officer ricky can rap and soulja boi, and big sean and lil b then let mac miller be. Everyone knows the game is fucked up, no surprise there but at least mac is real with himself rather then being something that he is not like most rappers.
9th wonder just tryin to get white kids to buy his album. and mac miller acts like a 3rd grader… the kid even named his mixtape “kids”
^ For what it’s worth, Mac named his album that after KIDS the old crazy fucked up movie.
F*** 9th anywaysz last album suck hard …
how many of you have actually met 9th wonder? hes a very humble, nice person.
Rick Ross and Big Sean should not be grouped in with Mac Miller….they actually make raw music. And I haven’t really heard Lil B’s music but by his interviews he’s a damn social revolutionary. The same can’t be said for you know who.
Why are yall gettin butthurt for 9th’s opinion?? If you dont like what he had to say shut up and dont like it. Mac is straight, he’s ok. But like dude said 9th tells it like it is regardless of what you feel and if you havent met or talked to 9th in person you wouldnt understand, I have had this priviledge and im better off for it. WTT didnt inspire me 1 bit, it was an average album, just someone had the balls to say it 1st.
He can be positive all he wants, but he still fuckin sucks at rappin’.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvEwyCxLMm4&feature=player_embedded new 9th interview on how rappers are disrespecful