In today’s post I talk about how all this Drake stuff we’ve been exposed to has been done six years ago.
READ: Slang Editorial: Thank Me Later: The 2010 The College Dropout?
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that had to be the most intruiguing title ever.
once again you shoot ‘n score with these articles
The College Dropout was dope. Thank Me Later is not.
Don’t Ever Compare College Dropout to Thank Me Later! Enough Said
NO enough said
Why hasnt Trademark’s issue #2 been posted? You fuck with wiz and curren$y
The college dropout was a much better debut. I mean, the factors that you listed are the only things that could relate the two (and those are a stretch).
See, when Kanye came out, they WEREN’T expecting him to be a huge success and his album turned out to be (in my honest opinion) a hip hop classic, with Drake, it’s the exact opposite.
Who ever believes this should kill themselfs.
He’s not comparing it lyrics & beatz wise. More about the person who is releasing it, time frame of release, and the crew around the one releasing.
*Beats
Did niggas even read the article? Highly doubt it.
@BlackStarr
Atleast you get it.
LOL @ comparing CD and TML
Lol yeh i feel like yall didnt even read the article at all. Hes not even comparing the quality of the albums at all, hes talking about how they are both different from the usual rap thats out now and the impact they have on their corresponding labels. He even said at the end how they arent on the same level with the best buy remark.
yea there are similarities between the two timeframes between the two releases…but what i think makes kanyes release more unique is that the blogs and shit as we know them today were virtually non-existent, and the average person really didn’t know who he was before his debut (really just cats who had been following the Roc and reading the production credits in the CD booklets), so for him to drop a classic and really usher in his own era was crazy looking back on it, definitely don’t think the same is gonna be said about Drake’s debut in a few years.
NO……College Dropout changed my life and im pretty offended u compared the two nigga! Thank me Laters’s tracklist cant compare to one of College Dropouts skits…
I’m sorry but college dropout has to be the most overrated album of all time.The lyrics weren’t great it had great beats but that’s about it.His worst album IMO
true about Drake’s hype… who else gets the hype? Could say Eminem, but Eminem has his fans already… Drake’s first album is being too hyped up… I’ve heard some of the leaks and this album does not deserve the sort of hype he has
Either way, TML & TCD are both soft & sweet. Pussy music.
*Looks at title*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It’s not even the 2010 808s.
College Dropout shits all over Thank Me Later. You’re reaching looking for any type of comparison.
I can see where you are coming from, yes.
College Dropout>Thank Me Later
drake = kanye with better rhymes and no producing skills
Joe McShan hit the nail on the head Kanye was a reject underdog and his success came out of nowhere. Kanye even said a whoooole bunch of labels passed him up and that the Roc didnt even believe in him that much as a rapper. Drake is all hype and didnt deliver.
and for the comment about The College Dropout not being Kanye’s best, its opinion but Kanye has stayed relavent for the past 6 years and Drake will fizzle out after his second album.
Drake is the Nelly of 2010
Read the article and you’ll realize what he means.
I dig what you’re saying Meka. Drake will not be as dominant as Kanye, but I liked both CDs to be honest.
co-sign G-Man
smh @ the lack of attention span to read the article.
co-sign Boomerang
on a side note college dropout kept me from being a school dropout lol, one of the best debut albums ever
theres people who like drake just because hes popular and theres people who hate drake because hes popular. then theres people who judge him based just on a quality of the music because more often then not he makes great music. sure he makes wack tracks but that only really because people try to fit him to a mold like when they complain that all he does is sing. i respect that he makes music that just doesnt fit into whats popular now.
LOL @ “Wayne taking a federally-sponsored vacation.”
That’s a pretty hilarious way to look at it.
Yeah, I think as of right now Drake’s album is garnering to be one of the most hyped albums of the year. I’ve listened to the album, it’s not as good as any of Kanye’s albums, but in terms of the music coming out right now there’s no other album that can compare to The College Drop Out besides Drake’s album ’cause the concept is almost similar, because it seemed that Kanye was strictly against that ‘gangsta rap shit that was all over at the time (refer to The Documentary by The Game which only came out a year later, or Beg For Mercy by G-Unit which only came out a couple months prior) but then again everybody has their own opinion on the album, but shit Cudi’s album flopped, Asher’s album flopped, Wale’s album flopped, yet everybody was hyping them off of their asses last year, just ’cause XXL (no offense) listed some freshmen that had potential talent (yet some of them disappeared shortly afterward but are slowly making a comeback *cough Mickey Factz *cough Charles Hamilton.)
I mean these artists don’t get too much hype until they’re at the front cover of magazines and getting so much repetitive play on MTV to the point where you know every single little detail in the music video or you know every lyric to the song.
Kanye came out 6 years ago with an album that helped change the scene of hip hop. I don’t know if anyone has realized at all, but 6 years ago in the world of regular mainstream hip hop it was just a full on straight Southern movement bullshit with hip hop, (ex. Paul Wall, Mike Jones, Slim Thug, Dem Franchize Boyz, Lil’ Jon etc) from that snapping shit, to the hood shit..everything just seemed the same. But Kanye gave a facelift to hip hop and brought some of it to the original roots. He even hooked up Common w/ a record deal and Common is legendary status. All of this just has to do w/ basically their impact on the hip hop community. Drake’s album is good, but it’s not great. Kanye managed to sell 440,000 albums in his 1st week sales for The College Dropout, can Drake do the same? Iunno Drake’s album coming out is a prime example for how strong the hype is for him. If he doesn’t sell 100,000 in his 1st week he was all hype, and he’s gonna flop later on. If he does sell, then he does live up to his hype. He seems to be trying really hard to change the game with hip hop even though it’s been changed..we still got our garbage hip hop out, but at least Drake is putting some quality music out for people who can either relate or just enjoy listening to..that was basically the vibe from The College Dropout I felt.
All in All, from everything I’ve said you should already know, Drake will never be a Kanye, and if his albums don’t sell, he just doesn’t live up to his hype, and as an artist he needs to stfu about being one of the best rappers ever, he is successful, but if success only comes from hype, then he can only go down-hill from here when another Kanye-wannabe comes along to kill it w/ a radio hit.
This album is nowhere near the level of College Dropout. Dropout was literally a game changer and influenced a new, younger generation of kids (Drake included). I seriously hope people don’t play themselves in potentially believing TML is even in the same arena. that is all.
Aubrey’s presence give Young Money its best chance at proving that it’s not a glorified tax write-off when Wayne created it a few years ago.
Classic.
this is just offensive to me
College Dropout was a hiphop album. TML is some r&b (rap & Bullshit). So I doesn’t even make sense to compare them. But it says soooo much about todays music climate, that this is considered todays “breath of fresh air”.
Kanye is a multi-talented artist that brought heart & soul back into hip-hop. He was an MC first who understood hip-hop and its history, as well as respected it. Aubrey is the 2010 Bud Bundy. And Sadly, these lil’ thundercats nowadaysaccept and are tolerant of a Fake MC.
“quite frankly there’s really nothing else going on in music that’s even moderately intriguing these days.”
He calls himself a music journalist and says something like this? Theres been more hip hop to look forward to now than in yeaars. And Kanye is one of them, get your fuckin head outta your ass
you make perfect sense sometimes Meka, and people still get mad.
and Sickplicity, fuck numbers wale’s album was sweet as fuck. (idk i have to stand up for my DC nigga)
Meka wasn’t comparing their albums on a “artistic” level, just the climate and the fact that both artist stood out on their respected labels.
But if you are actually going to compare anyone new to Kanye, I’d say J. Cole. He’s got a good buzz, produces, rhymes, he’s considered an underdog to some, and he’s signed to Jay. Almost matches up with ‘Ye. We’ll see if Cole can deliver.
I used to like the site but the Slang Tutorial is just stupid. I don’t give a fuck you’re not comparing the lyrics and shit but you can’t even name those two albums in the same title. Even Seinfeld HATES THE DRAKE!
this is a copy/paste of the comment I left on the article, it was a good read though.
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only thing is… drake and Kanye are/were coming from two completely different situations.
Kanye was the underdog who no one’s heard of, and the people who had heard of him told him he’d never make it. So when he dropped something nobody expected and it caught on, it was special. (I just realized the underdogs won everything that year. see 04 Pistons)
Drake has been a star whole life. He was an actor when he was a kid, he’s had mixtapes that would’ve went platinum if he treated them like albums, kids figure out who Drake is 12 hours after they’re born. 90 year old farmers in Harrison, Michigan know who drake is. Nobody knew anything about Kanye, just that he was ill after College Dropout dropped.
Nicely written, Meka.
and on comparing someone new to Ye – the dude above mentioned j.cole, an that’s a pretty good one story/personality-wise. but sound wise you’ve got to give it to TiRon.
Some people need to read the damn article before they overflow with hate. That’s disrespectful. Don’t think you’re doing anyone any favours trashing the title.
It’s easy to say The College Dropout>Thank Me Later. However, the article does not go out of its way to musically compare the quality of the albums. It’s really about the timing, record label situations and different approach to music.
Pleease expand your ideas and opinions on things. When I look at the comments sections, I expect to see more legitimate opinions then brash and ignorant comments.
Guess 2db got paid to compare Thank me Later to College Drop out.
I already said this on XXL, but…
Interesting piece, Meka. However, apart from the obvious HUGE difference in quality between the two eventual products from both artists (Even Kanye can’t seem to make a better album), you left out the fact that nobody expected Kanye to deliver an actual classic.
I mean, people obviously dug his beats, and the general consensus was he could rap somewhat, but no one was thinking he was about to shit on every single recent release not called The Black Album. Even though Through The Wire and Slow Jamz were getting a little club and radio love, he still managed to catch the entire industry off guard.
Drake, meanwhile, has been riding a steady 2 year wave of both mainstream and internet nerd hype. And again, he kinda blew it.
I don’t see Drake holding people’s interests (whether through actual music or possible award show antics, fashion endeavors, girlfriend selection or whatever else) for the next 7 years like ‘Ye has.
Man what the fuck are you guys comparing that garbage ass album to
College Drop Out, Thank me Later did not have the lyrical content that drake usually has, and I nearly laughed to death when he says in that track “I Avoided the coke game” Im like please dont try to
make your life seem like it could have gone that way if you were
born born rich I mean come on his father was rich, now there
is nothing wrong with being born privileged but its all about
how you use those privileges
@George Clooney
your comment was probably the best comment Ive read on this page
every one else is just being stans or haters
Nah I dont think they got paid but Meka works for XXL and they are
a bunch of dumb ass Id go to the source before Id read XXL their just a group of so called “Hip-Hop” heads who dont know what hip-hop really is but the do know what rap (Lyrics About:Bitchs, Money, Cars, Dope, “keeping it Hood”, pretty much 90% of main stream rap) is and remember XXL is the same magazine that called
yung burgs mixtape a “Classic”
And to the folks saying Drake is doing something diff…
What exactly is he doing that hasnt been done before?
He a slight biter of other rapper mainly Ye just more R&B
big Drake fan but no his album is not going to be good.
You all gotta realize that for all intensive purposes, So Far Gone was his debut album. Yes it was labeled a “mixtape” but it sure as hell didn’t sound like one, in fact it was so good, this nigga was able to make it to an EP, with only ONE new song, and go GOLD. ( which is like going 2x platinium these days) so I think we’re looking at it wrong, Thank Me Later should not be compared to the standards of a debut album, especially one like Kanye’s. the fairer comparison would compare Kanye’s Late Registraton. Now while I understand where Meka was going with this, but it’s apples and oranges, Kanye was a virtually unknown underdog that came outta nowhere. Drake ain’t coming outta nowhere with this one, he was coming outta nowhere with So Far Gone. (which, IMO, was a classic.)
And I will reserve judgement on Thank Me Later until I buy it June 15th.
“there’s really nothing else going on in music that’s even moderately intriguing these days.”
Um ok, whatever you think…
“Hell, I can’t even tell you the last album I purchased.”
I still buy albums…
you niggas that haven’t listen to pre 2008/2009 drake is bandwagon dick riders/haters..
nobody was checkin for him like now so its nonsense for you to imply his fame has been with him for a lifetime, none of yall knew who he was before Wayne co signed, it was slowly getting there without him but when that happened is when you started looking. one more thing… i want a nigga to tell me his first two mixtapes MIXTAPES (the official shits not the dick jockin compilations of late) weren’t DOPE.
and
did SO FAR GONE not CHANGE the game…
hes half jewish, a child star since 14 and from outside of america…
kanyes content isnt the same either.. kanyes shit was the slightly more intelligent black dude with the arts background who still expressed the same common nonsense in rap sans the overflowing of guns and drug dealing tales..
drake makes actual r&b records (see: find your love, a night off, brias interlude, brand new, sooner than later)
and his content is his life.. period. (see: so far gone, comeback season, room for imrpovement)
also i may or may not be from toronto
and i may or may not be an actually fan since room for improvement my 07 spring/summer
I see the comparison, since I actually read the article. Here’s the slight difference though:
The difference is the time-frame, believe it or not. When Kanye was creating his buzz as a rapper, his image was different from all the Roc artists (pink Polo’s, Louis Vuitton knapsack) and his music was more conscious and thoughtful (Through The Wire, All Falls Down) but lighthearted and humorous at the same time (Slow Jamz, Workout Plan). Most importantly, Kanye didn’t have the internet to his advantage like artists have the internet now. Kanye came out with numerous of mixtapes, but his image (non-typical, non-threatening, underdog emcee) and his music being different from the norm catapulted Kanye to success.
In Drake’s case, he blew up off of one mixtape (So Far Gone) with one single (Best I Ever Had). From my experience, I never heard of a Drake until the Internet claimed So Far Gone to be the best mixtape ever. And because Drake released this “classic” mixtape for free on the internet, internet soldiers went on attack mode, hyped him up from one mixtape, and next thing you know this kid got a deal with Wayne, he’s hanging with Jay-Z, Queen Latifah & Mary J. Blige claimed him The Savior, and now he’s the biggest artist in the world. Kanye didn’t have that, for Kanye didn’t get big until Late Registration (Kanye’s second album) if you ask me.
Kanye actually have a history, from ghost producing for D. Dot, to slanging beat tapes to being some of the brains behind classic albums and songs BEFORE he became a successful rap artist. Kanye never had the internet overhype him up to be the next best thing. Drake had stans screaming classic right out the gate, while heads was reluctant to call College Dropout a classic album (XXL gave it an “XXL” rating). Drake wasn’t even on the radar…it wasn’t until after he released So Far Gone last year and his stans claiming him to be the best until I realized dude also had 2 other mixtapes out and it wasn’t even popping like that. I don’t like Drake’s music, and I’m not a huge stan of Kanye West, but at least Kanye had a legit history in the Hip Hop culture to put him in the position he is in today.
*improvement
also, 9am in dallas should help u see that he can do the expected dope drake shit whenever he wants…
real artists dont cater to your needs, they express theirs, whether a painting, sculpture, a literary piece or through music.
you either resonate with and appreciate it.. or you just plain out have a different sense of life.
explain to me “legit history” im tire of the almost racial shoulder of these cultural claims.
*tired
i like what diddy said, sensible man right there..
How about:
Good Ass Job: The 2010 College Dropout?
That’s crazy… well to each his own. But thank me later was a mediocre album, I feel like drake half assed it. Feeding ppl what they wanna hear which is a whole bunch of shit talking. He had like one track where someone TRULY delving into his rhymes, could tell he was being atleast a little truthful.
He’s not comparing albums, just the movement behind the artist. Yea, they are similar.
I literally shouted out “HELL NO!” when I saw the title for this article. But now I realise its actually a good title, because I read his slightly boring, misleadingly titled article as result. If the title actually represented the more even handed luke warm nature of the article I never would have read it. XXL-1 outraged 2dopeboyz afficionados-0
Are you fucking serious? College Dropout was a classic – an honest, musically revolutionary, multi-facetedly entertaining magnum opus. TML is gargbage: vapid, cliched themes, cold synthesizer beats, and Aubrey’s pretentious insufferable attitude.
And honestly, I hate to sound like a Drake stan right now, buthe foretold this reaction, he said some people will hate from jump no matter what he did and it takes time to see if something was/is a classic. When College Dropout dropped, it wasn’t labeled an instant classic, neither was Jay’s Reasonable Doubt, Nas’ Illmatic or even Soulja Boy’s Souljaboytellem.com (joking.) so lets not immediately pass juudgement on this album, see how much replay value this has down the road in order to judge it’s impact. (I still bump So Far Gone in the Pod, along with The Black Album & Both of Lupe’s albums) so everyone calm down.
and I don’t get it, if someone likes a rapper, they’re a stan, if they don’t like a rapper, they’re haters, can there be no middle ground?