Interesting… at my alma mater they thought it’d be a great idea to allow Superhead to speak during Women’s History Month. And you see why I never big up Cal State Dominguez Hills. Thoughts on Wayne is up top, Kane down bottom.
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Wayne v. 50
i’d say its a toss up..
side note: Howard is the bad bitches melting pot, straight up son
“some of these rappers don’t have cool enough life experiences” lol stfu 50 thats the reason rappers lie about the shit they rap about…being shot is “cool” selling drugs is “cool” being locked up is “cool”…im a weezy fan but of course half the shit he talks about is most likely B/S i just enjoy the music…50 cent can’t even say “cool” shit anymore in his songs cause the man’s been living a rich luxurious lifestyle for quite a few years now
Thank You 50 …..Call Wayne out…..and Super I wouldnt say its a toss up…..
50 is right all wayne do is write punchlines….I dont ever recall a good song of weezy that has had substance…..
Everyone so quick to say 50 aint relevant…but when it comes to Lil wayne they are nowhere to be found….that is so back -ASS-wards….
50 has always have had good material….No it hasnt ALL been perfect but can you say the same about Wayne? no…
People wanna argue about 50 “credibility” and say nothing about wayne….
I just dont understand “internet critics”….At all…
dude holding the camera take it easy mr i agree every fucking thing 50 say
i’ll reiterate my point just so it doesnt get taken outta context…Weezy > 50 in MY opinion BUT i understand that wayne (and 50 nowadays) are bullshitting everyone when they talk about shooting ppl and killing ppl
@ B_word
Your exactly what im talking about..
You are a Hypocrite…
“some of these rappers don’t have cool enough life experiences” lol stfu 50 thats the reason rappers lie about the shit they rap about”
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“im a weezy fan but of course half the shit he talks about is most likely B/S i just enjoy the music”
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“50 cent can’t even say “cool” shit anymore in his songs cause the man’s been living a rich luxurious lifestyle for quite a few years now”
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Like I said….BACK ASS WARDS..
You just contradicted yourself in that statement you made….
smh..
Everyone > Weezy (:
lyrically, Wayne > 50..but that aint a hard task, 50 is so unlyrical, i’d compare him to his nemesis Fat joe..but that would just cause a ruckus…either way I don’t like any of them cats lol
b_w0rd, 50 made us of the word cool (and corrected himself) because his talk of defending himself with violence, getting locked up, surviving on the streets is what people pay attention to (most) rap music for.
You mean to tell me that after one or two albums, everything that 50 experienced growing up in Queens is no longer allowed as a topic of conversation. For the most part, 50’s life after he blew up has been constant travel, hotel rooms, performances, & trying to secure his future & that of the G-Unit family (both artists and staff). I’m sorry, but that isn’t what the fuck I really want to listen to. I travel enough, I’m building my own company … I don’t need to hear about shit I experience all the time. I’m not looking for 50 to rap to me about business plan this, marketing executive that, feedback loop this. I’ll go get Michael Porter’s Competitive Strategy from amazon.com and be well on my way.
The point he was making is that as rap fans we appreciate fictional stories when well done (i.e., Biggie), but the more honest an artist’s songwriting is, the more of a connection we feel. That’s why 50 blew up the way he did @ first. (When gangstas bump my shit, can they hear my hunger?)
All you people screaming for miraculous ‘personal growth’ from 50 need to really look in the mirror and ask yourselves how quickly you’ve grown as a person on a daily basis.
50 will continue to bring that ‘murder/drug’ shit because that’s the kind of “aggressive” material (as he would say) that his fans expect from him. 50 isn’t a fucking intellectual. I go to the library & pick up books for free when I want to learn. When I want my adrenaline to pump a little faster, I’ll listen to what 50 just dropped because he consistently gives us that kinda material. There aren’t many artists who can drop lines like:
I wake up, stare at the ceiling
I’m alive, what a beautiful feeling.
I put my vest on right after I put on my drawers
It’s a habit, I’m always prepared for war
and you believe him because his life story is basically a testament to it.
Jesus, I don’t usually post, but some of the (hypocritical) hate I see under 50 posts gets irritating.
As an aside, overall 50 is a much better songwriter than Wayne. Wayne had some very innovative cuts on his last album (see Dr. Carter), but usually what he brings to the table are some clever lines & a unique flow.
song wrting is for R&B, I don’t understand why folks give him a pardon as labeling him a “Songwriter” cuz his rhymes are subpar, but when it comes to other rappers, they are so critical of their lyrical content…how’s 50 different? aint he a rapper?
Hes not really calling him out or starting a beef with Wayne.
He simply pointed out the obvious truth that I think a lot of people fail to realize.
@ B-Word…
The only point you have is your blatent contradiction
lol You said you understand they BS now…..
So wait let me get this straight..
What its okay for Wayne to do it but 50 cant?? lol
I dont understand the hate for 50 at all……
As a 22 yr old African American Male I Iook at Mr. Curtis Jackson as a amazing businessman and a prime example of turning a negative into a positive wilst maintaining a dominating persona…..In other words..I respect dude to the fullest….
Lil Wayne?? Nawwww..Not so much…You start kissin dudes, and any type of respect as a man I have for you goes straight out the window…..Like Ron Browz bullshit lol..
50 raps about guns, selling dope, fellatio for females etc
Wayne raps about anything, but at least its somewhat amusing
only thing I could say 50 has going for is he production choice, but thats what instrumental albums are for lol…otherwise his music is boring and repetitive..
First comment said it best. Howard U got some of the baddest Chicks in the country… candied yams wit extra syrup son!
@ JacB
What you said is 100% Truth……
I’m really starting to believe the internet is turning into a pot for idiots….I swear everyone hates 50…..For no apparent reason….Now everyone has their opinions and they should be respected but when you come with contradiction like b-word thats when the exact opposite needs to happen…
@ISF75
cmon now, don’t force your opinion like its all fact and unbiased..u obviously a 50 fan..I dropped some valid points, address them shits lol
@Super
Im sure if 50 wanted to get on some (excuse the non words) “lyrical, spibical, livical, spivital rhyme sayer diabolical chronicalogical” Type shit he could….
Or some “Whats a goon to a goblin” type shit he could….
Everything you hear that 50 writes is story format…Thats what he does….
50 has said himself he isnt as lyrical as a Lloyd banks so i dont understand why you all try to put him in that box and compare him with the rest of the Lyrical rappers in the game..
and thats a good thing or just an excuse? most of the folks here aint radio fans, 50 is a radio artist despite what you may think..if they like wayne, well thats a different story lol but just talking bout 50, he’s an underwhelming lyricist with repetitive tracks and lacks inspiration aside from his usual antics..I like artist with a certain standard of lyricism, and 50 is just average..songwriting is like second priority, you can write a decent hook, but whats the point when verses offer nothing but, “I got a pistol, blast off like a missile”..I can’t quote a single 50 verse..seriously..
Who is the hater behind the camera? “Cause Weezy SUCKS”. Wait, what? Is it personal?
idk, ive heard plenty of songs from wayne with substance (the suffix, lil weezyana, sqad tapes)..same with 50(GRODT)..but what i really think is goin unnoticed here is these two are the same, they were rapping way before they blew up neither one of them did the overnight celebrity route, now that theyve hit the top they are both doing new things, gotta keep change in your life to stay excited or you’ll kurt cobain yourself
@super
See you cant Say 50 is a radio Artist then sit here and say
“ehhh Wayne is a different story”
Wayne is a radio artist more than 50 is……Now..last time I remember i dont recall it being a crime to be on the radio anyway….
What you might be trying to say is that 50 is pop without “saying” it persay..
50 is an underwhelming lyricist with repetitive tracks and lacks inspiration?
My sole purpose for being a 50 fan is the gritty type music he makes…Like he stated before the industry lacks that type of music …..I’d rather listen to “I line niggaz” off of War Angel in my Mustang GT gettin off of work than Young Monies “I want AIDS” (Everygirl)…If I want Lyrical I go for Lupe Fiasco…Which i am i major fan of also..Lil Wayne is no where near Lupe…
Now if Also if Wayne didnt kiss baby or jock not once but twice, his style from first Gillie then and now Drake I wouldnt have a much of a problem with dude…
There is a balance in music..One artist cant have everything but to say 50 has nothing is ridiculous…
Prom Queen By Lil Wayne in my opinion is his self ether…..
I would rather listen to Candyshop, Ayo Technology, ANYDAY over Prom Queen…
And if you dont agree you need to buy some new ears….Seriously…
@ ISF75
I wouldn’t listen to those songs by 50 you named period so I guess YOU need new ears. We want substance. That gangsta shit, cars, clothes, money, etc…..People like me are off that.
@ ISF75
Wow, just read your comment of you being a fan of Lupe but yet last night you said he was ass. You fucking contradicted yourself. Are you a fan of Lupe’s or not???
hold up Meka, when did you go to HU?!
*waits for Gucci Stan to comment so all of you revert your anger towards him*
@ 1 Dollar
Go read my statement again.
Thank You.
I also Accept your future apology lol…
Here is the link
http://2dopeboyz.okayplayer.com/2009/09/09/50-cent-baby-by-me-f-ne-yo-radio-rip/#more-56358
Just to make things easier for you.
@ 1 dollar
In my humble opinion, stories of survival = substance. Whether you like it or not violence is a tool that all species on this earth use. In my view, sometimes it is a legitimate one. 50′s raps aren’t really about gratuitous violence (like a Tarantino movie for example) but more so the “if you bring trouble to my doorstep I’ll handle it” or “if I have to make an example out of you I will” variety. Please remember that one of the first things Obama did as a candidate was surround himself with a security detail. These are trained killers. In other words, if someone presented themselves as a threat to him, he had people by his side to kill & ask questions later. Shooters as 50 would say, but when you put it that way, it’s just “thugs” right? That dumb gangsta shit. (Not saying there aren’t a lot of dumb rappers around. Just sayin 50 isn’t one of them). One of the first things Obama did when he got into office was send 17,000 more soldiers (i.e., trained killers) to Afghanistan. I’m not making a value judgement as to whether more troops were needed or not, my only point is that violence is a tool we use. Some of you don’t like that, don’t want to listen to it, don’t want to condition yourself to be ready for the day you need to resort to it, & for most of you that’s OK. But when you tell me that stories of survival aren’t substantive, that’s where we differ. Music is a spectrum, you can choose whatever you like. I’m just tired of people trivializing different kinds of material.
I agree with JacB and ISF75 (which is just saying if he had to choose between 50 worst songs and wayne’s worst song he’d choose 50′s.)
@ 1 Dollar
People like you are on that “Jerk” shit…..
Thats your opinion though…If you like tight pants and womens clothing thats you…
i agree with 50 yo. but i think they both suck!!
Little Brother- The listening
50 Cent- War Angel
Lupe Fiasco- The Cool
Raaphael Saadiq- The Way I see It
Havoc- From now on
NERD- Seeing sounds
and the last two concerts I have been to are NERD’s and Lupe Fiasco’s….
Thats just to give you people who wonder where I stand a glimpse of the music I listen to…Since 1 Dollar making shit up and what not….
Though I don’t agree with ISF75 comment with the implication that there’s something wrong with the “Jerk shit” or “tight pants.” Everyone just needs to adopt a new opinion of space, accept people like different things and there’s nothing wrong with that. Move on and stop hating.
And, 50 isn’t completely correct about Wayne nor are those who say he raps about nothing.
@ James
Respectable opinion James…
Im glad you recognized that I “implemented” that there is something “wrong” with that “Jerk shit” rather than go off record and say I said there IS infact something wrong with it…..
I was just clearly stating thats not me….Since 1 dollar “implemented”
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That “gangsta shit”, cars, clothes, money
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And that people “Like him” where off that..
What i was doing was guessing what he was “now” on……
Call me out?……
But not 1 dollar?
Interesting….
I think 50 is smarter than he portrays himself…of course I think he portrays himself as a success-addicted-violent-millionaire-who-cant-really-rap, but at the same time, I respect his hustle.
This video post doesnt validate if Wayne is better than 50 or if 50′s better than Wayne. This is to validate the fact that Wayne was a meer child in the limelight for a long time. Now, despite what Wayne spit is factual or not, to me (just personal opinion) his music have no substance whatsoever. The closest thing I’ve heard substantially sound was “Georgia Bush”, but Wayne’s image portrays him as a wreckless, unresponsible, crazy rapper obsessed with tight technicolor pants and rock.
And his image sells to casual listeners of hip hop (not true hip hop heads), so its only right that the media shoves this down our throats and having a lot of people gagging for air while others follow and swallow the cum. (Pause)
Just sayin’.
ya fools what r ya talking bout lolz -_-
Yous are all crazy.
this fool ain’t smart. he just met the right people along the way. This dude is whack.
Not reading all these comments.
Sorry if something I say is said.
Wayne > 50 Lyrically.
Wayne > 50 in single/song making. When was 50s last #1 record? He cant write 4 songs to create a buzz, I swear hes tried hyping up BISD for forever. It aint working, his new song Baby By Me isnt gonna get him buzz either. And before you bring up Prom Queen take into the fact, thats Waynes first single from Rebirth, MTV cancelled their video shows, and BET wont play it except for on the deal, which is on at 1 central in the morning.
Fiftys time is up, he shoulda just piggy backed Em when Relapse dropped.
Fifs angry because hes not mentioned with the greats, he hates on everything thats hot. Jayz, Wayne, Kanye, Drake.
Fif dont want it with Wayne lyrically or album sale wise right now. Maybe back before Wayne made himself a mainstream rapper.
He lost to Ross, what else is there need to be said.
ISF75 has a hard time interpreting comments..
either that, or reality…*taps fingers on desk*
@ ISF75
Read what statement again?!?!?! I see that you said Lupe is ass but yet you say your a fan and your now saying you went to a concert of his recently??? You just continue to contradict yourself. A person who says an artist is ass doesn’t go to they concerts especially buy they music and call themselves a fan. If that’s a new definition of a fan then hiphop is dead cause shit keeps getting stupid every day. And I don’t know you dude so no need to be talking shit on here like you know me. That shit makes you look fucking fake. Talking about an apology Smh…..The fuck outta here. This is the fucking internet. That’s like talking like a gangsta over the internet. What “Jerk” shit?!?!? I listen to intelligent shit. Shit with meaning. Not something from 50 who portrays himself to be a gangsta when he isn’t. Never was a gangsta. Selling drugs don’t make you a gangsta. Enjoying showers with other men is not being gangsta. Paying someone off to do your dirty work is not gangsta. Being a bitch is not gangsta. If you’re into shit like that then kudos for you but people like me are off that like I said. Go woosah something.
hate lil wayne but gotta say 50 isn’t as good as he was before. the only reason 50 is anywhere in my opinion is because of vitamin water money, eminem and dre.
@ 1 dollar ( You pullin alot of stuff out of thin air)
Lets have a healthy debate…..For someone who is so focused on the “truth” it dont seem like know what it is..
Quote exactly where I said Lupe is ass….Im still waiting for that….Give a link or something….
Like seriously who in their right mind would say that?
I gave you the link for you to read exactly what I said again and you still on some BS..
and who said being gangsta is cool? Whats wrong with 50′s music? I dont see no difference between your average rated R movie with a couple of shoot em up scenes and 50′s lyrics….
Thats why people are so confused these days….You guys forget this is all entertainment.Nobody said he was the “best alive” Like you do wayne….and then you go make statements like “Hip Hop is dead”
Nigga aint shit dead….
Prime example: Common- I Used to lover Her…..and that was back when?
In the Golden Era of Hip Hop RIGHT???? and we all know what that track was about…
If something was wrong with it BACK THEN but people saying that was the best time in music then somethings up…
You listen to intelligent shit? Dont mean shit…..
I suppose you also have a PH.D too…Since your so intelligent…
I would be more impressed if you said you listen to Classical music than “intelligent” Hip Hop…
ha..Fuckouttahere….
@ ISF75
Yo, 1st off, my bad. Wrong person who said Lupe was ass. When I saw “ASS-backwards” it got you confused with someone else cause the other person was just throwing that word around too much last night. He’s ass, he’s ass, so and so is ass. So once again, my bad. But for real though, I’m just not into 50 anymore. Dude really is irrelevant to the gangsta shit and anything else like Ayo Technology and whatever else you named just don’t get plays from me. Also his lack of a vocabulary bothers me. So no hard feelings.
@ 1 Dollar…
Respect is mutual homie….lol We both are fans of good music..Your right 50′s vocab is Ass lol….I do agree with you on that one lol Thats straight truth…and its cool.. I knew it was a mix up…I didnt get a chance to read the rest of those comments but whoever did say that shit is twisted….Im sure those are Gucci Mane fans lol..and You also right about the Patriots too…They aint doin shit this Year lol…
@ ISF75
I felt so bad after I looked back at the Baby By My post and saw it was another person hahahaha. I’m like damn, this guy was taking shit from me today for no reason. Also with the Wayne thing, I don’t like the guy either for what he portrays when he really isn’t. I USED to be into that shit cause of people I was around but now that I don’t fuck with too many people, I’ve been getting in on shit like Lupe that I should have listened to a long time ago. Now, Gucci on the other hand, he should feel bad for that Wasted song he did cause now kids who aren’t even old enough to smoke are saying they don’t get fucked up, they get wasted. Music as a whole is just fucked up by the listeners.
w/ the exception of TI, these rappers arent Gangsters ne more. THEY ALL LIE! they’ll get arrested for drug charges every now and and then, but thats it. At least TI can say that this gangster -ish isnt a life for ne one. And @ least i can understand wut 50 is talking about. Wayne jus spits out ne thing UNRELATED 2 the song he’s on!! People just like his beats (& probably his voice) BS rappers…….
wow you niggas still think Lil Wayne actually writes? if the shit ain’t obvious maybe you smart dumb cats need to go listen to gucci all day or something
50 hasn’t bodied a track since GRODT. If I wanna hear about that type of subject material there might be 25+ rappers/artists that would get play before him. He’s not nice with bars, he hasn’t done anything innovative (regardless of how you feel about it, Wayne goes there), I honestly see no redeeming quality about dudes music other than that it could be worse. I’m no “Wayne’s the best rapper alive” type, and he comes off whack 60% of the time, but his worst shit (that’s rap, Rebirth vs. 50′s shit is apples to oranges) tops most of what 50 puts out, and when he does get it right, 50 can’t even dream of fucking with him post GRODT. Flame away, I couldn’t care less. Opinion’s are like assholes, everybody has one.
50 is dope and so is wayne but i dont think theres any doubt that wayne and drake r at the top right now..50 still up there tho!
According to myspace Baby By Me is the 3rd official single from BISD Smh…..Best of luck to him. All I see is another pushback cause that song was trash. Not buzz worthy just like the others.