One more post. UGHH got some high quality video of Deck on stage at Rock the Bells. This clip also features The Chef addressing the issue stating that anyone that challenges the Wu might as well jump off a roof. Also, Van Stylez sits down with Rae to talk about his roll role in the situation.
Inspectah Deck & Raekwon On Joe Budden (Video)
Hip Hop, Video
this is getting old very quickly maybe we will at least get a good joe budden diss out of the shit but if not then both sides should just leave it alone
WicWicWack
Never cared for Wu Tang… I love me some poon tang though.
I appreciate Rae saying he gonna mind his business and caring for his own career and his kids but lol @ him saying joe looks like he’ll call police.
And now let the wu stans vs budden stans flamewar begin
joey got this hands down.
his “roll” in situation” ITS ROLE…jesus christ ppl learn 2 spell 3rd grade level words plz
this is pathetic btw…seems like wu beggining fans “plz dont forget bout us ,we know we irrelevant in these days and slaughterhouse is better..but u know”
begging*
i just want to hear them battle it out on wax.
this youtube shit trash talk is getting boring.
rae should just stop cause in real life no one cares about buddens. for real its true
wheres killas gangsta grillz?
Slaughterhouse vs Wu-Tang PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!!
baddest beef since EVER!!!
lol at “he looks like he could call the police”
pardon my ignorance but, what does built for cuban links(x) mean???? lol
smh. how old are ya’ll on here? lol
Rae ethered Joe
didn’t even try either
I doubt Joe will ever have the worldly influence Wu Tang has, esp on Koch and Almalgam D. He’s a dumbass for that.
Inspectah Deck is ass, but if Joe was to piss off Ghostface, Rae, or ol’ school Meth, it would go down.
And now let the wu stans vs budden stans flamewar begin
Cannon said this on July 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
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That’s actually entertaining than the “beef” itself.
*sits back watching while eating popcorn*
I want some diss tracks. Fuck all this talking.
more* entertaining.
Oi this is going to get ugly.They still don’t get that Joey lives for this? that this is when he is at his best? Yeah I get that they are legends, but even captain america got laid down.
slaughterhouse is a group of fail.. their good mc’s though *minus Joe Budden* … their just built to lose
fuck the wu faggot ass old broke muther fuckas they are beyond the point of irrelevancyyy GTFOH with that shit ive never even heard of instecah deck faggot ass name me one good song by him and joes worse song kills that BET
People needs to stop saying this is a Slaughterhouse vs Wu beef
@ Sb 562…
You’re an idiot. U think that Wu-Tang is broke? They’re fucking icons in black culture & music, let alone hip-hop. Some of u guys really need to quit talking all reckless when behind your computer screens. I speak my mind too but u can get at me anytime.
I mean, Why?
Just: Why?
can’t we all co-exist in a MadRapper world?
lol @ the slim shady lookalike throwin up double middle fingers to the camera
@fulltimeboss
and this is coming from someone who tried to “school” me on the way i (correctly) used “passed”? grow the fuck up kiddo.
fuck the wu faggot ass old broke muther fuckas they are beyond the point of irrelevancyyy GTFOH with that shit ive never even heard of instecah deck faggot ass name me one good song by him and joes worse song kills that BET
Sb 562 said this on July 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
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wu is a multi platinum selling group, the only money Slaughterhouse as a whole ever made was show money none of these niggas ever sold more than 10,000 units..
none of these niggas ever sold more than 10,000 units..
Bobby Boucher said this on July 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
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Budden’s first album went Gold & Padded Room sold 13860 the first week.
Just sayin’.
Superman got killed too and Captain America got laid down by Iron Man right? I’m not sure. Wu vs Slaughterhouse? Yeah that would be murder but I need some more “Slaughterhouse” “Onslaught” “Move On” “Warriors” everything else just isn’t their best but IS still good. Wu would be a tough opponent.
Oh and I believe this is all the labels doing. Both groups are on E1. I could be wrong, I don’t follow artist like that just the music.
And last I heard, Joell’s “The Brick” sold 50,000 units.
Dunno bout Royce though, & Crooked doesn’t have an official album out, yet.
I thought Buddens and Rae buried that shit
smh…Joe Budden isnt responding because who wants to beef with the Wu!? you will take nothing but L’s if you do that.
Agreed with the ppl saying Slaughterhouse is nice minus Budden.
buddens first album went gold?? didnt know that… Selling 13,000 units first week aint shit… Niggas sell more than that out they trunk… Rae is hilarious though… “He look like he’ll call the police”… That shit had me rollin…. this “beef” is corny and it seems like meth is the only one that can dead it….
Personally I think that Joey need to chop off whoevers head.
Whether it be Busta, Redman, Method Man, Raekwon, Speck, Wu-Tang, even that Dick riding white boy in the crowd.
Disclaimer: I am not an Internet Soldier, and I approach the Wu-Tang with the utmost respect.
You can call this what you want tell you decide to look at the facts. Look at the premise Budden started the situation with: Lyrical ability. Look at where the fuck our so called LEGENDS of Hip Hop took it: threat on niggas lives, he’s a snitch bla bla bla…
They took it to every other matter and person besides the ones that were prompted.
Point Blank:
You got a fucking spot do get minstrel when somebody tests you. At the least respond accordingly, and prove your merit. Let your legacy speak for itself that’s what its for.
Sorry I Mean dont get Minstrel for all who might take that literal.
@ Huh? ^^
Budden never went gold, look up the official RIAA and not wikipedia and see for yourself
CJ said the shit that made the most sense…it all started talking about lyrical skill of the “RIGHT NOW”…all this extra highschool shit is corny and uncalled for. EVEN the needless back and forths between commenters who don’t have any stock in either Wu OR Slaughterhouse. You do realize you can like both, right?
Sure you do.
lol i gotta laugh at @yo when he said that no one gets this is when buddens is at his best….that he lives for this…..buddens sucks so bad…..lackluster, ordinary bars……im not really a big Deck fan but i love the Wu….im not even taking sides tho i just really think joe buddens has no appeal what so ever.
lol @ people like jakefromthebean that judge artists without listening to all their shit. sad. CJ said everything that needed to be said. People catch feelings wayyy too much, all joe did was make a statement about lyrics in 2009, one that hes completely right about. and people start crying left and right. Im a huge wu fan and even I think this shit is beyond stupid
Deck only dissed Joe because Deck has a new album coming out. People tend not to notice the trend of rappers talking shit about whoever is current when they have their own projects about to drop. What I hate though is when oldheads think just because they have “legend status”, that it should constitute that they shouldn’t be talked about. If you’re 40 years old, and you’re still putting out albums, you should be vulnerable to attack just as much as nigga that just started rapping yesterday.
These rappers are too fucking sensitive. If this was the Golden Era of hip hop, there would have been mad diss tracks already made, but this new age hip hop had turn the shit from rapping into politics. Technology has created an outlet for people to continuously blog about their beefs. Niggaz don’t want to see your face in flash vids, we wanna hear rappers who think they are they best actually PROVE that they are the best.
The Wu came in at the perfect time when they did. They came out during the Golden Era when it was acceptable to be an emcee like that, because there was WAY more variety back then than there is now. But now, everything is so cookie-cutter and generic that W is not relevant as much as they were before.
As far as Deck goes, none of his albums (solo albums that is) did absolutely anything even though they had good tracks, and the same goes for Joe. Who would win lyrically right now? I’d have to give my vote to Joe Budden.
I want to see these old ass rappers stop getting offended!!! IT’S HIP HOP NIGGAZ!! If you’re not lyrically prepared to defend ya shit, then you should NOT be rapping!!!
@ OD>
I didn’t look up wiki for anything, but I can’t find anything on Joe Budden going gold on RIAA.com, so I stand corrected.
@ Cage, Bobby Boucher before told me said “none of these dudes sold more than 10,000″. 13,860 aint huge, but it’s more than Bobby said. I just corrected him.
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slaughterhouse is a group of fail.. their good mc’s though *minus Joe Budden* … their just built to lose
Bobby Boucher said this on July 15th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
@ Bobby…That MAY be the most ignorant bullshit I’ve ever read in my life… it was pretty funny though. I’m still trying to figure out how the fuck somebody could even think something like that let alone post it in a comment. Shit’s bewildering to me.
Anyways, about the whole selling more records bullshit…Joe Budden, Crooked I, Joell Ortiz, & Royce Nickle Nine, ALL put out a RIDICULOUS amount of free music, just for shits&giggles I suppose. And not even just as Slaughter House but throughout their solo careers too. That also doesn’t make much seance to me considering the money they could make off of it but I’m not one to complain.
Please don’t get it twisted, 36 Chambers was in my stero for YEARS…in 93. I will always respect Wu but IMO, it’s a new day and age….and like Royce said that even Helen Keller would acknowledge: As you can see S.H. IS ON SOME NEW SCHOOL SHIT!
bahah
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hip hop needs music not this gossip drama bullshit. if budden thinks he can body deck call him out on stage and battle his ass and who wins wins and leave it at that. its just funny how both groups are on the same tour yet their is friction. and what is sad these motherfucker prolly dont wanna squash the beef behind closed doors like real man should because it makes both of them relevant. fuck a diss fuck a beef fuck that im beter than you shit. make some dope ass hip hop or keep it moving.
^ Someone give this man a prize, true shit.
I bet Budden will go in on his ass after the RTB tour. No need to fuck up money for his group by causing some big ass blow up while on tour. Inspectinya Dick has gone in WAAAAAAAAY over his head. Rae is fucking confused if he thinks there are no groups that can go at Wu tang and crush them. Slaughterhouse will skull drag The Wu from one side of the stage and back across to the other. Wu is the most overrated rap group of all time. They were cool for about 5 years. They started after Outkast and fell off around Kast’s 3rd album. Kast is still relevant, they are WAAAAAAAAAY better lyrically, and Kast can actually make MUSIC. Wu is trash and they are wiping away their “legend” status more and more by the day.
Nobody sees Goodie Mob runnin their mouth about other rappers; and they were better than Wu-tang. At least people are actually LOOKING for the new Goodie Mob album that is coming out. No one gives a fuck about the Wu.
I’m glad Meth has kept his mouth the fuck shut and gone on about his business.
I like Goodie Mob, but they were never better than Wu. Come on now. More raw? In a way, but actually not really. Better lyricists? No. Better beats? No. Goodie Mob is not better than Wu.
I agree that if rappers get offended, they need to come with it lyrically and prove who is better. At the same time, some people who have been rapping for years were doing this shit when it wasn’t acceptable. When you got looked at like you were a damn freak for even liking rap. So now dudes that come along like people didn’t build Hip Hop from the ground up — that shit gets annoying. But the bottom line is, don’t keep talking about it, make dope music about it.
Look at all the kids trying to pass off their wrong ideas as facts. Wu didn’t start after OutKast, and they weren’t Golden Era.
And I think Goodie Mob’s first two albums were classics, but I’m pretty sure people really are checking for them any more.
*smh* at all this disrespect to the Wu-Tang Clan, I swear some of y’all’s first Wu experience was “The W.” The top 4 alone from Wu-Tang Clan (RZA, Ghost, Rae, & Meth) alone have outsold, out-influenced, set more trends lyrically and beat wise than the whole Slaughterhouse, individual careers included. And once u add in GZA, ODB, and Inspectah Deck it’s not even a fair debate. Let’s see Slaughterhouse put a strangle hold on hip hop for 5 consecutive years with classic after classic like the Wu did from ’93 to ’98, highly doubtful. I like Slaughterhouse too but put this shit in perspective people.
@ OD>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Budden_discography
Joe Budden
* 1st studio album
* Released: June 10, 2003
* Label: Def Jam
RIAA certification: Gold
yo for real, all this IRRELEVANT bullshit talk needs to stop…do u think rock n roll fans are saying that the rolling stones are irrelevant, look at how rock fans treat Paul McCartney. Like the fuckin ICONS they are. Fans respect and love what they’re stars have done for years and keep supporting them, But you bitchass tight pants wearin muthafuckaz wanna talk like rappin is a 5 to 10 year plan…niggas got no RESPECT thats why a headjob like “Pink” Buddens can talk all the shit he talks without accomplishing one percent of The WU has done….Buddens need to share his Prozac with his stans
And for the record niggas miss that old shit cuz most of this new shit is GGGGAAAARRRRBBBBAAAGGGEEE!!!
@huh…..are u really comparing 50,000 units and buddens 1 gold?( i dont think it even reached gold, kid)record to Wu selling millions over the years and the following that they have accumulated? U must have been born in 2002, or thats when u started listening to hiphop.
@ro no, if you actually read the comments, you’d see that somebody said budden never sold and huh just put the facts up that budden went gold and sold more than dude thought. has nothing to do with selling more records.
YOU are also comparing apples to carrots. If you’re going to pit sales against each other, pit Deck’s SOLO sales against Budden’s SOLO sales. What you’re doing is akin to comparing a capitol against a whole state.
@cannon yea i read the comments after i posted mine..i had to get mine out while it was fresh in my mind…
for the record i’m not sayin its about sales its about respect. for all the “irrelevant” talk i see on this shit, niggas nowadays dont respect what niggas did for the game. Budden started it with his half ass comments. How u gonna say you’ll take a niggas head off..no disrespect, thats like saying to someone “U dress like a faggot…NO DISRESPECT.”
On top of all that lets keep it true…How many slaughterhouse or budden disciples are there? Wu-Tang is, was and always will be a movement. Slaughterhouse is 4 dudes who cant hit it big individually…………need i say more?
lmao @ people posting irrelevant shit as to house this started. Yes wu has a legacy, we know. yes, they have sold a lot of records and had a ridiculous amount of influence on the game, we no. This all stemmed from a dude saying from a fans viewpoint that he had better lyrics than meth in the year 2009. WHICH HE IS RIGHT ABOUT. you cant name me one great meth verse in 2009 and I have every meth cd hes put out. Just like cw or w/e his name was said people caught feelings and turned this whole fake ass beef into something it wasn’t.
and I still can’t believe people bring up record sales in any conversation these days. some never fucking learn I swear.
ok…all u budden fans are assholes …and i’ll bite ur heads off…no disrespect.
WU-Tang is known to have a Violent History .. Ghostface, La the Darkman, Power & other Wu affiliates Credibility is well Known in the hood.. Stapleton projects in Staten Island.. Check Here For When Ghostface Broke Mase Jaw for talking Shit –> http://ow.ly/heG7
Wu has been Known to Chase Rappers out of Clubs or Slap Up Many Rappers.. Joe Budden crossed the Line 1st by saying he would Put Hands On Inspectah deck so yea basically JOE is Food Now..
AND AS FOR MUSIC
Comparing Meth’s Biggest record Vs Joe’s Biggest record
“Pump It Up” will never be Better than Meth’s Grammy nominated “All I Need” With Mary J Blige..
Listen To Inspectah’s, I bomb atomically , socrates philosiphies & Hypothesis cant define how i be Dropping these.. & tell me that’s Not one of the most Classic 16’s to start off a Record
Listen to “Only Built 4 cuban Links”
and tell me Joe Budden’s Debut or Padded Room Could Compare To
#1 Ice Cream
#2 incarcerated ScarFaces
#3 Criminology
#4 Guillotine Swords
#5 Glaciers of Ice
you get the Point..
And To any one Claiming that was Years ago..
A CLASSIC MEANS THAT IT’S TIMELESS
That’s Like saying THRILLER isnt the best pop album ever
because it was made over 20 years ago Smh!
Budden is way outta his league this time & i’m a Former Fan Smh!
^ truer words have never been spoken
This shit is last weeks news. Budden needs to try having a successful career and keep other people’s names out his mouth (with all that “I’m speaking on facts” bullshit) and the Inspectah needs to quit before he gets embarrassed. Am no fan of bland Budden by any means, but he’ll diss the shit out of Deck.
How come you give Charles Hamilton shit, but not Joe. He’s just as big a herb, “he looks like he’ll call the police!”
TALK FACT NOT FICTION = that dude. Budden stans read up^
man these wu niggas are full of shit they are pretty much saying that nobody in the game can challenge them or they will be dealt with now rae is looking like a bitch nigga after you talked to the man you come out and co sign your other man to beef with this nigga they have just put the whole slaughter house in a position where they have to respond i think these old wu niggas are jealous that they may be out shinned if slaughter house stays together longer then they did. and these old niggas need to sit down with the tough guy shit you niggas ain’t poppin nobody’s heads off. my personal opinion I’ve never felt Raekown lyrically I have tried to listen to that shit but it just doesn’t move me at all
Co Sign big time
demise said,
“lmao @ people posting irrelevant shit as to house this started. Yes wu has a legacy, we know. yes, they have sold a lot of records and had a ridiculous amount of influence on the game, we no. This all stemmed from a dude saying from a fans viewpoint that he had better lyrics than meth in the year 2009. WHICH HE IS RIGHT ABOUT. you cant name me one great meth verse in 2009 and I have every meth cd hes put out. Just like cw or w/e his name was said people caught feelings and turned this whole fake ass beef into something it wasn’t.
and I still can’t believe people bring up record sales in any conversation these days. some never fucking learn I swear”.
Joe Budden has fans?
idk how peopleare arguin about this dumb shit. SO FUCKING WHAT IF THEY ARE LEGENDS… WHEN CANNIUS WAS SLICK TALKIN ON 4,3,2,1 DID LL GET AT HIM OR NOT??? TAKE OUR TIME AND ANSWER THAT I’LL WAIT… N DID LL EVER TAKE THE SHIT TO A STREET LEVEL??? this legend status shit is just a crutch for these old ass niggas to stand on nowadays n it’s gettin outta hand. Hip Hop is built off of being competitive…
@TALK FACT NOT FICTION
Firstly, you’re falling into a trap of talking about the WU vs Budden. Once again, try to separate the GROUP from the INDIVIDUAL that is the Rebel INS. Comparisons should be a on person to person base. This has nothing to do with the full Wu, or most of it’s members. It was Joe vs Meth & now Joe vs INS.
Also, Joe’s first album was grammy nominated as well. Is the material as good as Tical? That’s a matter of opinion. Times and content have changed so it’s almost impossible to compare the two just as you can’t compare Shaq to Bill Russell.
Lastly, I recognize INS’s verse on Triumph is incredible, but it seems like the Wu fans keep proving Joe’s point by ONLY bringing up that verse. Knock the Joe stans down by bringing up his verse on “Guillotine”, “Above The Clouds” and songs from INS’s SOLO albums. Joe fans need to bring up his dope joints like “Secrets”, “3 sides to a story”, “dum_out”, “better me” and more.
i don’t have a dog in this race because i like both artist. it’s just the abundance of misinformation and opinion being given as fact is out of control.
pop his head off????
fuck outta hear chef just lose all respect
dis music i wanna hear sum tracks
NO MATTER HOW MUCH BULLSHIT YOU LITTLE FUCKS GOT TO SAY ABOUT WU-TANG KNOW THIS…
JOE BUDDENS WILL NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, HAVE ONE HIT AS BIG AS WU’S LOWEST HIT, HE WILL NEVER BE AS RELEVANT AS WU IN AMERICA NOT EVEN IN HIS OWN HOMETOWN JERSEY, HE WILL NEVER BE AS RELEVANT AS WU IN INTERNATIONALLY, JOE BUDDEN WILL NEVER BE AS RELEVANT AS WU IS IN HIP-HOP AND EVEN THIS GENERATION WOULD NOT LOOK AT JOE BUDDEN AS MORE RELEVANT THAN WU PERIOD!
Yall fools if you think Joe Buddens want to beef with Wu physically. Y’all dumb fucks better do ya home work on what they are capable of in the streets. Name the place their street ties will put MOUSE to sleep early like yesterday!
Budden is a fine rapper, but he was completely out of line throwing the shots he threw. It was open disrespect to the people who created the shit he’s on today. Even if he had the track record to make such claims, which he does not, it would still be arrogant and immature.
It’s also apparent from Blackout 2 that Method Man still has one of the slickest flows on the market, and should not be trifled with.
@Mozz and Pete Dee,
Goodie Mob had WAAAAAAAAAAY better beats and Goodie Mob had better lyricists because they ACTUALLY had substance in their lyrics! Wu Tang has the better RAPPERS. Understand the difference please!
As for Outkast not coming out before Wu-tang, DO YA HOME WORK SON! I guess you forgot about that TLC “What about your friends” remix with Outkast???? Outkast came out before Wu tang (‘tang dropped protect ya neck in late 2003) and how you gone say Outkast wasn’t in the GOLDEN ERA of hip hop?
@Pete dee,
“but I’m pretty sure people really are checking for them any more.”
???? Nobody’s looking for Goodie Mob? I don’t know where you from but you might want to do your homework on this one as well.
Bottom Line, Wu-Tang has been given WAAAAAAAAAAAAY to much credit. What has anyone LEARNED from listening to Wu-Tang. People give them legend status and call their albums (some verses) CLASSICS when they are nothing but albums filled with kats rapping words together well. They don’t rap about SHIT.
@Mozz, you are right, they need to put all this won wax. If some Wu members want to keep talkin reckless, Slaughterhouse needs to decapitate their ass and rip them of their legendary status.
j.hannah
idk how peopleare arguin about this dumb shit. SO FUCKING WHAT IF THEY ARE LEGENDS… WHEN CANNIUS WAS SLICK TALKIN ON 4,3,2,1 DID LL GET AT HIM OR NOT??? TAKE OUR TIME AND ANSWER THAT I’LL WAIT… N DID LL EVER TAKE THE SHIT TO A STREET LEVEL??? this legend status shit is just a crutch for these old ass niggas to stand on nowadays n it’s gettin outta hand. Hip Hop is built off of being competitive…
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you youngins need to read ^^^^^^^^^^^ and face facts. Joe needs to rip Inspectinyamans Dick’s face off and let the fuckin games begin. Slaughterhouse can EASILY destroy any “legendary” status that Wu has right now.
@TALK FACT NOT FICTION
Only Wu Stans view that verse as a “classic”. He says absolutely nothing in that 16 besides rapping about how good his rhyming ability is and then goes into to describe performing a show, when the cops come in with tear gas, the weak hit the floor but the strong wu stans keep demanding that the he keep spittin.
That’s not a classic 16.
Here’s a classic opening 16 from the G.O.A.T.
I came into this world high as a bird
From second hand cocain powder
i know it sounds absurd
I never tooted but its in my veins
While the rest of the country bungies off bridges
Without no snap back
and bitches they say they need that
To shake they fannies in the ass clubs
they go the other route
turn each other out
burn each other out
where a bonified nigga like me
can’t even get no back rub these days
ain’t that bleak on they part
but let me hold it down
cause they shut you down
when you speak from your heart
now that’s hard
while we rantin and ravin bout gats
nigga they made them gats
they got some shit that’ll blow out our backs
from where they stay at
You obviously haven’t heard a Wu-Tang album if you’re saying they don’t talk about anything with substance. A group that has a bunch of 5 percenters, Muslims and religous niggas who lived street life to an extreme had nothing to say right (rhetorical)?
This group raised a generation of niggas who followed their way of fashion, slang and lifestyle. If you look at the Wu at their height you’ll see their music and lifestyle mirrored EXACTLY how the times were in the hood. So their music became a culture and lifestyle to hoods across the country Nigga!
Dick head!!!
Bias ass nigga! GO FUCK YA SELF! IGNORANCE IS BLISS!