Now… I’m sitting in my local Subway and I start seeing a few Twitter messages involving Charles Hamilton and his executive producer credit to J Dilla on his upcoming album. Quite a few Detroit folks took that the wrong way (and rightfully so). Anyways… this sparked a lot of back and forth between Charles, Hex, HouseShoes, etc. I can’t be bothered to grab links for every message but if you browse Twitter enough you’ll find the story. Anyways, Charles keeps thinking its cute to be sarcastic and talk shit to any and everybody online. It’s turned out ok with some and maybe he really thinks he can get away with everything he says. But I’ll say it now, you’re dead wrong Charles. Hoping the adjective in that sentence never comes true either. A lot of the folks your talking reckless to are serious people. I’ll leave names, and links out of it as it should be known or can be found out who I’m referring to. The fact that after your conversation with SweeneyKover (in which you talk about your relationship with Ma Dukes, Illa J, etc) and that you’re lies get shot the fuck down by HouseShoes (and that the J Dilla Music Foundation hasn’t existed for quite some time) is quite ridiculous. I understand publicity stunts in some occassions but this is fucking stupid. You’re messing with the wrong type of people and I don’t think it will turn out pretty. Heed the warning Mr. Hamilton, Detroit doesn’t fuck around.* UPDATE: Since I see folks claiming Charles never said Dilla was Executive Producing the album… here’s a nice little quote from Hammy himself…
Yeah, James Yancey EPd the album. That was my sound consultant. Google it, come back here and doubt it. Ma Dukes, I gotchu.
See how fucking stupid that is? When Ma Dukes, Illa J, etc don’t even know the kid? Smh…
*In no way am I condoning violence, I’m just offereing my thoughts.
First!
Also I would like to see this end with Charles getting punched again
Charles Hamilton is a cool person leave him the fuck alone
Yes talks alot of random stuff so leave him alone he aint talking to you.
Not only is he trolling, he is being a shameless/disrespectful motherfucker.
Charles & Dilla are very much connected, true fans of Charels know his love for Dilla, and its much appreciated
yea he comes off real arrogant and immature. i dont know what he’s done that makes him think he can get away with all his bullshit. i wouldn’t mind seeing him get punched again. or hearing about him getting robbed. that’s if he even has anything worth stealing. ANTE UP!
Shake is on his LISP shit again
lol doesnt he know wat happend to Yung Burg
Dilla is turning over in his grave as we tweet today…and i’m sure even that is somehow the dopest beat eva.
wow charles hamilton your stupid
and we all know your gonna read these
but i honestly think jaydee wouldnt have ever worked with you
i mean you couldnt have even gotten on that jay $tay paid album
you suck at life homeboy
Charles Hamilton lies just to lie. He reminds me of me as a 5 year old kid.
props 2 shake for this
people should learn not 2 fuck around with the d
look wat happened 2 yung burg… his chains still on tour
@iamnotjosheast
haha charles hamilton STAN
your on some chris crocker shit homie
Again I’ll say this: alot of this has to do w/ his age as well. I don’t think he can really help it. He’s one of those kids on the Internet who thinks that they are invincible behind their monitor and keyboard and doesn’t know any kind of boundaries whatsoever. And he may never get his act together until someone plays “acting coach” and sets his straight. However it needs to be done.
Sorry Charlie. This is way too many Ls in a short span of time for anyone to ever expect to take you seriously in this hip-hop game. And it’s getting to a point where you’re making your “fans” look bad. Like I am about not respect anyone that rides for this cat. But then again, they’re probably young too so this is a moot point. It’s like the equivalent of showing respect to someone who gets all of their current events from Fox News. No me gusta.
Seems like CH is straight lying to everyone’s face. I wanna see Ma Dukes come out and say something official. This don’t look like it’s gonna come out pretty.
Fucking Fuckery.
Charles is a really childish dude… and I think he’s gonna learn a serious lesson soon. I knew a cat JUST….JUST like him. And that dude talked himself smoooooooooth into one of the most incredible ass-whippins I’ve ever seen.
Real talk C.H., these Detroit goons don’t play …. b e-z young’n
Charles is on the permaloss list. I deleted all his mixtapes yesterday. he gets no respect from me. Anyone can see through that, fake ass ” I’m an intellect, check how deep I am with my sonic metaphor.” Bullshit. His Lame ass didnt deserve the cover. Everyone who deals with the kid at one time is now rethinking it.
Dammit, why is he making it so hard to be a fan
i can’t support this anymore
i think a lot of people just take charles’ shit the wrong way…
he lies to get people as yourself fired up over nothing. you are just giving him another mixtape to write.
Who would’ve thought that Ace Hood WOULDN’T be the biggest lame on the XXL cover?
Charles Hamilton is not hip-hop!!! honestly, dudes not about the music he is about the drama. and like when he first came out i was like this shit is word, he can spit. but i don’t respect arrogance, its not fr3$h, sorry charlie.
but on a lighter note…..
THE ECSTATIC. THAT SHIT IS HIP HOP.
^
Haha, current events from Fox News. Good Call.
Seriously, this is just another publicity stunt to get his name out there because he makes wack music(IMO), and his album is dropping soon. I don’t believe that people should resort to violence, but that’s just me. I think he may have stepped on the wrong people’s toes and is to immature to admit his mistake. The real problem I have with this is his lying about a dead person, that can’t defend himself.
i will never support his music. r.i.p. jay d
i dont get it wat did he do… by tha way Im from
lol
the fact that cats are arguing over twitter and taking it seriously gives everybody involved an L…smh at all this fuckery…
On a lighter note?
Is Shining Down dropping tomorrow? I really am getting Ecstatic</b about it.
also, copping The Ecstatic. haha.
Charles shouldn’t say Dilla executive produced shit if he didn’t and everyone else needs to chill the fuck out. Don’t fuck with him but don’t give him this level of recognition. If you don’t like dude, don’t fuck with him.
Dilla is dead. Hamilton won’t degrade his legacy. Move on! There’s more important issues then Hamilton and his antics.
ew. my tags got ass raped.
*frown.
ugh charles i have defended you for a long time. but being a red blooded detroit man and a great dilla follower i have to say that you gotta stop. i would not have mind if you made a tiny joke about dilla, at least in a way that sounded like you just were inspired by him and such. but hey, that is me and a lot of detroiters (and others) are not lovin the fact that u are saying such things.
i dont think that this is a front to dilla or his family and friends, but u cannot just get away with saying ish that is stupid and funny anymore. that type of stuff is okay if you want to be underground. but you are trying to promote an album, okay you are xxl freshman of 2009, it is time u start acting like hip hop is your job rather than a simple meaningless hobby. take your job seriously bro or you will be sorry.
well spoken shake! THIS KAT DONT KNOW WHAT HE DID! HE REALLY DONT HAVE A CLUE! I REALLY HOPE NUTHING BAD HAPPENS, WE DONT FUCK AROUND!
^ james is right – everyone is up on their hate game. I just read through all this twitter chat and the comments here etc, if you don’t like dude (like I don’t) then just don’t support him. I don’t see the big deal aside from him lying about it; which is bitchmade but what are you going to do about it? Not like he’s going to turn around and say “you guys are right” – he posted on his twitter page about “Thanks Detroit, now I’m more popular.” Get over this publicity stunt ; you’re contributing to the situation.
Since everybody is throwing their opinions out..might as well give mine…
I’m a huge fan of Charles Hamilton’s music. Never had a problem with his philosophies or anything like that either. But straight up, he really acts childish! It’s f#ckin annoying to be honest. If he concentrated more on making dope music than his infatuation with Rihanna and his weird ass lies that he uses just to get people wondering about him, he’d be the most successful emcee off that XXL cover.
I’m still a fan of his music…but he’s making it difficult as of late.
he’s just saying he’s close to him because of the inspiration dilla gives him..but w/e
both parties look ridiculous right now arguing on twitter btw..i mean, charles is young, but these other motherfuckas…act ur age ha
@ Shake.. Oh really this clown talking reckless, i am off the plantation free from the overseer ! Let me find out he is talking reckless.. Well Shame on ya’ll and nahright for promoting and marketing this dude ! He is wack ! Serious Jones ate him !.. He held his grown when he got chin chick by his wifey… cool..
Charles doesn’t understand that Motown is for real.. 8 mile he got his wig flipped !…
BROOKLYN DOESN’T REP HIM ! WHERE HE FROM ? I am from the Bean but ain’t nobody check for Charles…
How does his most viewed event on the net ain’t a video or 16bars ? When he gets chin checked by his lady.. over 100k plus views on the net..,
He is decent ! HE IS NO WAY BETTER THAN THIS
http://www.zshare.net/audio/6108470463aaa734/
Dopeboyz wildin today lol
the fact that cats are arguing over twitter and taking it seriously gives everybody involved an L…smh at all this fuckery…
That’s just charles being charles, hes still immature as an artist and doesnt know how to handle and fully think shit through. He better grow up fast before he has nobody. He’s been falling since his 3rd mixtape anyway. Better have some hot music to back it up, tired of wasting my MB for his mixtapes with 1 hot song.
Maybe this will mean you will stop posting this faggot’s overrated, under nourished music.
i dont think the exec prod credit was a big deal
man i like, or used to like, charles music alot. but this nigga is just tweakin. puttin out dumb ass music. makin dumb ass statements. just bein weird as fuck. this nigga is done.
yeah it is a big deal! your not gonna give dilla exec prod credit to get more money in your pocket and to promote your ablum! detroit is not gonna let that happen!
giving lames attention FTL!!!!
can someone break down whats everyone getting salt in their panties about. he says dilla inspired his music so he give him credit on his album. it wasnt a shot, wasnt any kind of disrespect for dillas legacy so why niggas getting so upset. the lil nigga obviously doesnt give a fuck that some random detroit niggas are upset and talking shit on twitter so why is he a target. lol @ twitter fights. what is this high school?
Is it me or does Chuck just wanna end his career before it starts? Sucks when you become more known by your antics than your music. I never was a fan anyhow, there’s plenty more talent out there.
so if the album gets realized and the dilla credit is still on there, and he does decent does that mean detroit takes an L. yea the city goes but wtf can they really do about it? twitter some more about it? online threats dont mean shit. as much as i think CH immature, hes winning cuz hes laughing white niggas talkin shit.
i hate the whole “publicity stunt” idea.
if you’re on top of your game and you shit is hot, you do not need a publicity stunt. lol @ “just ask yung berg, his chain’s still on tour” hahaha….
released..lol i fail
and esbe thats not always true, there are tons of dope rappers putting out heat that arent getting no love, cuz they aint marketable and dont have a hitch. publicity is every rappers best friend.
shit just reading that got me heated and i dont even know what happend on the twitter.
say what you want! that shitisnt gonna fly in the D! and lil random detroit kats? do your homework fam!
everybody pretty much already said what I was thinking especially chris a few comments above
I mean I fuck with Twitter a lot myself no homo if needed but shit is ridiculous to be taking it that serious
this really is a random act of fuckery on everyones part & you do realize you are just giving him more promotion by all of you posting this nonsense right?!
the way dilla is involved in this situation is kinda sad. but the twitter beef is hilarious. dudes are trying to start a movement to unfollow charles haha. that’ll teach him! haha
no it was’nt a tribute to his inspiration….. if that was the case Ma dukes would officially co-sign it. its a blatent contrived attempt to use the Dilla name for personal gain. (a brand thats suffered since Dilla’s death due to whats left of his legacy getting diluted by random bandwagon riders)
this was a sad attempt to add some true credibilty to his project. a 4real fan would have more been less showy an more respectfull
tell me i’m wrong charlie….
(and dont even get me started on the blasphemous CH/donuts mixtape)
I can’t believe you niggas are all in an uproar over this. are you serious? cause the nigga credited dilla’s inspiration to him as producer on an album you haven’t even heard, it’s blasphemy?
how many times have other rapper says “I’m the new pac” or “the new age pun” or “biggie reincarnated” in a line..ya’ll let jay live after “if I aint better than big I’m the closes one” til this day
AND CREDITING Dilla as inspiration is your beef with the dude? WOW.
as a fellow producer, I have much respect for dilla, but these detriot dudes are treating him like a god. Yeah, he was great, but so is Pete Rock, Premo, Large Pro, RZA, etc. And who cares if CH credited him as an exec producer, all dilla would care about is that someone learned from him, just like he learned from those greats before him, and put the knowledge to good use
i just hope charles hamilton hasn’t let his alligator jaws overload his tadpole ass on this one….the whole “my relationship with the yancey family” or lack there of was pitiful. c’mon charles…really?
I dnt c tha problem here. He is paying homage. He is n no way disrespecting dilla
Tupac Made All The Beats On My Album That’s Comin Out
Biggie Did My Adlibs
Big L Harmonized On My Hooks
*Waits To Get Crucified*
in detroit he is GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
okay 1. Twitter fights. Everyone fails.
2. Any charles fan knows dilla is like his biggest inspiration, but he went about this tribute wrong. What I think he ment by dill executive producing his album is dilla inspired and dictated the sound of it through his music’s influence on charles
3. Charles was acting dumb as fuck on twitter. point blank period end of that discussion
4. I hope to God he told the truth cuz lying about shit like that is lame, but I think people will still listen to his music like people still listen to ol’ fat ass
Well one of things that he did too was claiming some of the proceeds from his album are going to a J.Dilla foundation that does not exist.
Completely unbiased here…you don’t credit who INSPIRED you as an executive producer. You think some random rapper can drop an album and say SHAWN CARTER ex. produced it???? You talk about inspiration inside the album artwork man, I can’t believe people halfway condone this. I’m gonna drop an album and say 2Pac executive produced. See how many Pac fans would want me dead…all of em would.
Word his approach is wrong ! Sometimes in this game you don’t have to be a lyrical typhoon ala Snoop ! His overall character sells us… Same for Jim Jones
That reference to J.Dilla in no way disrespected Dilla’s name or his art. It was more of a shout out, or a sign of who really inspired Charles.
The dude got a lot of inspiration from the dude and has dedicated beats and mixtapes to J.Dilla. Charles Hamilton never meant to disrespect or ‘be cute’ in this situation, he plainly tried to appeal to a certain audience I suppose.
2DBZ…. I’m losing hope in you guys. He’s ‘Dead Wrong’ ’cause he mentioned J.Dilla’s name? Oh c’mon… so if he said Tupac wrote his lyrics, would you faggots get pissed off as well? Nah, you’d probably look at it as corny and nothing fresh.
Charles’ ways of appealing to population might not be the most common ones and sometimes can be viewed as irrational… but the dude only tried to show love, respect and how important Dilla was to C.Hamilton.
Detroit not dumb to start hating on the dude after this…. Royce is his good homie, Eminem and him are cool… and the underground rappers in Detroit (the non-ignorant ones (I’ma get hated on for saying this)) won’t really care… nobody’s confirmed with 100% evidence that it is the defnite, final back cover of his upcoming 16th June Album/Project…
Stop the hate… let the dude do what he does. Prodigy could diss Tupac any day again and I’d respect that (and I’m almost like a Tupac Stan…). Just ’cause a person is dead, it doesn’t make him God, a mythological creature or whatever…
So just take it easy yo, 1~~~
I dont really feel like reading through all these commenets… but if somebody would like to explain to me what the big deal is it would be greatly appreciated
NMC lost for even dedicating a post to this…smh
I’d love to see the NMC blackball this guys music, and prove that they can break careers just as well as they can make them.
People Misunderstanding Charles so much
its kinda sad
whatever
I dont really feel like reading through all these commenets… but if somebody would like to explain to me what the big deal is it would be greatly appreciated
The Most Hated said this on June 8th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
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I’m guessing that… Charles gave Dilla an exec producer on his album, even though he never knew Dilla. And now people are pissed.
Correct if wrong, though.
Correct me* if wrong.
IT IS A PRIVELEGE 2 HAVE JAYs NAME ATTACHED TO YOUR SHIT-
all you rappers that rap over dilla beats! not cosigned! wack!
you talk about dilla or proof in any disrespectfull way, dont come to detroit!
Fuck wack ass Charles Hamilton getting snuffed by a girl and putting it on the internet. He sucks as an artist and tries to flood the streets with his sub-par music and now getting into all the publicity stunts? Fuck him.
it’s one thing to “shout” dilla in your thank you’s or whatever. and it’s another to site him as executive producer. especially without even knowing the man. it’s falsifying the legacy of dilla and everyone that doesn’t see it is blind. i agree that charles is immature but why does that have to stop me from stating my opinion? just because dude doesn’t realize how stupid that is, i have to let it go because he’s ignorant? fuuuuck that. giving dilla EP on the album is just a cheap way to get a different fanbase, claiming dilla had a part to do with the actual production of the album. people that don’t check twitter, or 2dopeboyz or whereever else will see that dilla is associated with it and buy into the bullshit.
^^^ ok.. .all you fuck heads just ranting out of your ass with no explanation are not needed here… go to WorldStar for that shit…
to the dude that quoted me… yeah i get that but I dont see why people are getting tight. how many ppl rap over Dillas beats now niggas wanna get mad? I see this as a compliment…
maybe i’m missing something…
not you shake lol
yea… for those that are saying charles didn’t say dilla was EPn the album…. direct quote:
“Yeah, James Yancey EPd the album. That was my sound consultant. Google it, come back here and doubt it. Ma Dukes, I gotchu.”
smh… ma dukes already said she doesnt know you! either does illa j. no one does… so quit lying and making up shit.
Where the fuck is CDQ Shining down?
THANK YOU @CHEEZYDoDo shit i mean i know he really needs to stop but he is a very misunderstood individual who needs to watch hi mouth he makes good music has a solid fanbase and (as we’ve seen in brooklyn girls) knows how to make a hit, can freestyle(which doesn’t eem to eb good for his face), and is creative when he tries to be he is just misunderstood you can’t take sides in situatiosn you really can’t because you don’t lnwo the whole story.
Ahhh shit, I can already see a beef between Black Milk and all them kids from the D against Charlie Hams. Imagine that?
JUST CLOSE THE C-SECTION, REALLY
Actually, I don’t think he was literally saying any of what he said. I just think he respects Dilla & Ma Dukes. But, I’m not from the ‘D’ & I have nothing to do with this at all. Just what I think.
Charles Hamilton definitely needs to shut the fuck up, I wanna see Ma Dukes make a vid exposin his ass
randomly off topic never I thought I would see the day but did you know DMX has a Twitter to lol?! Then again I don’t think any of us ever thought some people like Busta, Kiss or Styles would either lol!
I don’t follow twitter but has Royce stated his opinion on any of this?
^^^ Kiss need technology for dummies…you see that video where he tried to buy CNN’s album on iTunes? Comedy…I ain’t mad at you ‘Kiss.
@ this guy
Cosign
Shake I feel you on this one man… I just act like the kid does not exist..
J Dilla is a person who make a beat that is a minute to 2 minutes long and calls it a album? Charles makes some descent music. I could give a fuck less with what you type on a twitter page or a magazine. A big FUCK YOU to shake stating a opinion as a Random Acts of Fuckery.
Just look at how many people now know who House Shoes is after this twittbeef.
So Shake has Stated his Opinion is a Random Acts of FUCKERY?
honestly, if his twitter didnt get hacked, he is fuckin insane
Other than his little mixtape rappin’ over Dilla beats (which is wack on his behalf and anyone who does that), I don’t really hear any of Jay Dee’s influence in his music. I WISH his shit sounded like Dilla’s but most of his beats just sound like standard cookie-cutter hip-hop fare. I’m sure he’s legittimately a fan & everything but that’s weak to put his name all on your shit when you never knew him.
So Shake has Stated his Opinion is a Random Acts of FUCKERY?
IAmNotJoshEast said this on June 8th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
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The fact that he’s lying about everything & being so reckless about is the RAOF. I’m not choosing sides here, but this doesn’t seem like a wise move AT ALL.
cosign @ this guy lol
where is it?
Lmao Shake ya’ll deleted Charles Blog link on THE FAMILY list. Cold Blooded lol
Actually – I still dont know who house shoes is..
@IAmNotJoshEast
You’re a fag. Dilla basically invented the whole neo-soul (which encompasses a large segment of hip-hop, as well) sound & culture & influenced an entire generation of people. He has a couple albums of short instrumentals amongst his massive catalog of production, entire solo albums (with him rapping & otherwise), & group projects, etc. Don’t talk about what you don’t know.
ayo my new album comin out
kanye, jayz, nas, and tupac all ex produced that joint so yall go out and buy it
being an optimist, heres my take…dilla inspired CH so much and CH has so much respect and admiration for dilla that he added him as his EP cause that shit pays. so any money that he makes off the album will go towards ma dukes hence the “ma dukes i gotchu” line. im thinking its similar to how bob marley credited “no woman no cry” to a dude named vincent ford because when bob was growing up in the slums, ford helped him out, and so bob gave him writing credit to his most popular song so all the royalties would go towards him so he could live decent. google that shit.
i really doubt that charles meant any disrespect towards dilla or the yancey family.
Please don’t compare Charles Hamilton to Bob Marley.
it wasn’t a comparison as an artist or a person. trust that. bob marley is my favorite artist of all time. it was a comparison of a particular situation to provide a possible reason for charles’ “fuckery”
@Clint Partie
Please don’t be so ignorant as to not see the similarities between the situation, no one is comparing their musical skill or renown
Thing is, CH is claiming he’s tight with the Yancey family. Read the conversation he had with SweeneyKover. He’s claiming he knows Ma Dukes and making it seem like he’s close with Dilla and his family. He’s claiming he was IN THE STUDIO with Pete Rock mastering J$P. It’s obvious that CH is lying about ALL of this, but he’s just backing it up with more lies. Anyways, that’s what I’m bothered by.
Im not sure how this is disrespectful. I hear people sayin its because CH is taking advantage of the “Dilla” name to sell more records but that wouldnt work. Dilla unfortunatley isnt really all that mainstream so most people arent going to go out and buy an album because somebody who they dont really know produced the album. The people who actually know who Dilla is a. isnt a big enough group to market to if you want an increase in market sales and b. are prolly informed enough to know Dilla isnt an EP on the record. Thats what all this comes down to for me but I could be wrong.
lmao@dinner
Sorry, it’s not similar. Jay Dee didn’t help raise Charles Hamilton.
This is some stupid disrespectful ish. Detroit is not to be messed with especially the people who would be involved
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Get Known Radio / Random Acts of Fuckery: Charles Hamilton vs Detroit Edition said this on June 8th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
^^^
Yeah and then he runined that by claiming he knew The Yancey family.
I failed classes on purpose. Studied, did research, and failed, just to prove that failure is more of a daunting task than succeeding.
he did this on purpose
@clint partie
you dont get what im saying obviously. there has been controversy that ma dukes is struggling with money due to legal issues with jay dee’s management and what not, so she’ll get royalities from the album. im not saying what charles is doing by lying about knowing her is right, but if shes getting money then it cant be all bad. and i dont even know if thats charles intent, im just saying that is a possibility.
I looked at Charles twitter and saw this:
“@hexmurda does that include getting shot? Yay! Bullet wounds will stop my bafoonery!!! =-)
about 4 hours ago from mobile web”
SMMFH. People say Budden takes L’s. People say “Nas Lost”.
But this mufucka here…
http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/double_fail.jpeg
Shake that DUDE!
Well, it is clear that, as i have said all along, Charles Hamilton is a retard. But that doesnt excuse people getting gangster over twitter. Let me repeat that:gangster over twitter. the words gangster and twitter do not go together. so i really cant take anyone in this situation seriously, except now i really now for sure that charles hamilton is a bitch. he sucks at rapping too.
you dont get what im saying obviously. there has been controversy that ma dukes is struggling with money due to legal issues with jay dee’s management and what not, so she’ll get royalities from the album. im not saying what charles is doing by lying about knowing her is right, but if shes getting money then it cant be all bad. and i dont even know if thats charles intent, im just saying that is a possibility.
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so what he SHOULD’VE done is reached out to the yanceys and explained him wanting them to receive royalties and all that and taken it from there….NOT lying about how he knows them all. that’s super duper wack and so is CH.
did this nigga shake just seriously type “FALSIFY THE LEGACY of Dilla”
my nigga are you serious?? anyone whos stupid enough to not realize Dilla didn’t have anything to do with this isn’t a fucking hip-hop fan in the first place.
whats the REAL difference between putting citing Dilla as exec and saying “dilla was inspirational in the production I put into this album”
thats BASICALLY what he said. but fuck the charles hamilton issue. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU AND OTHERS ENCOURAGING VIOLENCE over this? THIS IS HIP HOP. this aint the streets of Detroit.
“r. A lot of the folks your talking reckless to are serious people. I’ll leave names, and links out of it as it should be known or can be found out who I’m referring to.”
what kinda indirect pussy instigation is that? you really condoning niggas being killed over this??
is that all Dilla meant to you?? REALLY? i’m appalled, livid but somehow nothing short of surprised.
Im sorry when did Hip Hop become La Cosa Nostra? Lol…When was it said, “You cant say this, that and oh yeah, that too”…
Charles is immature, leave that man be
^^exactly. when the fuck did Hip Hop become run my unruly detroit thugs who dont contribute shit to hip hop but death tolls. is that what u want dillas legacy linked too??
SMFH
@naigel(can’t read your name, sorry)
I do get what your saying, I don’t think you get what I’m saying. The Bob Marley guy apparently was someone he actually knew that helped raise him as a youth, monetarily or whatever. It’s not the same as this Charles Hamilton deal. It’s great if he’s really gonna donate some of the money his album makes to the Dilla estate or whatever, though.
@ dude after my last comment no Royce hasn’t said anything yet he been pretty busy lately according to his Twitter which is why he ain’t been posting on it to much!
@Clint Partie
WHAT MONEY? its a free album.
^^exactly. when the fuck did Hip Hop become run my unruly detroit thugs who dont contribute shit to hip hop but death tolls. is that what u want dillas legacy linked too??
SMFH
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Probably the most rational thing said in this long ass string of comments. Dilla would be more appalled by their actions than those of CH
and Blog Bully, it drops for free in a week. August 25th is the release a deluxe edition type thing in stores with a DVD and art contributed by fans. So there would be proceeds.
Leave the dude aloooone.
Personnaly, I don’t give a fuck if Charles didn’t met Dilla or Ma Dukes… He messed up and he should make excuses for that and let his music talk for him even if certain people considers his music as garbage. smh
It’s stupid to insult the dude like that. He messed up ? Fine. Charles make your excuses and do what you wanna do.
I don’t understand why he does that. He don’t need to put Dilla’s name as the executive producer to have the attention of the people… Well…
Peace to y’all.
From the looks of Twitter, CH just got off the phone with Royce Da 5’9 and he seems to be acting rational again
man blog bully tearin yall up lol.
foreal though, yall are givin charles the attention he wants. he could give 2 shits if you think hes immature or not, its all about hype an exposure for him.
as for the death shit, thats just fuckin ridiculous.
@complex you right I forgot which just still proves is being retarded niggas act like charles was trying to get over on the memory/name of dilla.
cmon now…
man click my name and look at my fuckin twitter. I been goin back and forth with this nigga hexmurda for like an hour. I’ll respect meka and not put links up as he’s asked me not do to before.
but shake..wow…smh
LOL! Hamilton apologized to Royce on the phone. Royce called his ass while they were doing the live stream of the Slaughterhouse listening session.
if you were smart you wouldnt go back and forth with hex! just tellin ya for your own good fam!
phone numbers and address’s being posted, now chuckie wants to apologize, new york kats are calling to get at him! lmao
anyone record the stream? I wanna see.
Will it be uploaded somewhere?
CH just tweeted “We’ll see how much I’m hated in exactly a week… Lol ;-)”…..album release implication?? Idk..all i know is that when you get the people who are mad at him right now ACTUALLY angry, I don’t wanna see what could happen…
Lesson: Don’t tell stupid lies around the ones who know better..especially when you haven’t put anything good out for a long time.
Bottom line, Hamilton played himself, and continues to take L after L after L.
This is some funny ass shit.
Grown men + Twitter + bullshit = hilarity.
charles hamilton is doodoo butter while dilla is a legend. /thread
I see both sides of the problem here.
On one hand some see it as Charles paying tribute to Dilla but on the other people see it as some fuckery because the little kid didn’t even know Jay Dee.
My take on it is kind of like this: He could have easily put “Tributed to James “J Dilla” Yancey” instead of EPd by J Dilla but the dude didn’t do that, for whatever reason. None of us are in his head so as far as we know it could’ve been from giving respect to starting publicity.
Both sides of this arguement handled shit mad immaturely (Twitter arguments? You fuckin’ kidding?) and that’s all there is to it. “2009: The year beef began to be transmitted by tweeting.”
@Pat for what?? for standing up for what I believe in? I’m suppose hide under the fucking stairface with my knees up to my face cuz this nigga is a detroit gangsta?
FUCK THAT. this is hip hop. THIS IS MY LIFE. I’ll fight for and die for it.
I dont care about his dumbass beef with charles. MY problem is when niggas from the streets bring street shit into hiphop and confuse the two. if u cant see how retarded this and u “warning” niggas rather than TELLING YOUR MANS to drop the senseless violence bullshit. then something is wrong with your head
@The Blog Bully
@Clint Partie
WHAT MONEY? its a free album.
I didn’t know that. I was kind of being sarcastic anyway. I really doubt that his album would make any significant funds to donate to Dilla, even if it was being sold retail or whatever.
Sorry, I can’t get enough of this post. Again, I wanted to reiterate that I don’t hear much of a Dilla influence in Charles Hamilton’s music. His beats could pretty much be by any random hip-hop producer. If his production was more like Dilla’s I’d be hyped about him but he’s alright, I guess. Decent lyricist, nothing special, decent beats & whatnot.
Fuck the argument of this being a result of his youth. This dude is a straight clown. A fucking 4 year old can see how much of a joke Charles Hamilton is. I’m 19, I love Hip Hop, and I don’t need any special glasses to see how much of a dick this dude is. Seriously, he needs to chill. And it’s so sad because this cat actually has some kind of talent. His acts of straight buffoonery seem to outweigh any kind of talent that he’s demonstrated throughout his short time of being known beyond a local capacity. This is a damn shame. First you steal from Black Spade, then the battle/punch video surfaces, and now you’re fucking around with the legacy of DILLA?! Hamilton needs to sit down and reevaluate the path that he’s setting for himself because he’s headed in the WRONG direction VERY fast.
What did he steal from Black Spade, out of curiosity?
Wrong city…
Mos Def just crushed it on Dave Letterman
Anybody know who that 5 Fingers joint I got off of this post is?
Hey shake, Ain’t this the cat you was pumping hard for the last year? This just shows your judge of character is off. Stand by your man cuz ya’ll niggas helped him become the fake cat he is.
not to be mean or fucked up but i thought for a quick second that this site sucked charles hamilton’s dick after how this site never really spoke on that black spade beat biting shit and all the c.h. stans on here… yet lo and behold ‘ye all prove me wrong. “SMH” at all the c.h. “STANS” jumping on the fuck c.h. bandwagon. lot of people can’t think for themselves nowadays or what? lol
laughing at M. Wow and some other folks comments… THANK YOU. co-sign.
No one wins here. L for ch and he realizes that. He will eventually mature and get better with his pr. Bigger L for the people who blew this up imo. The funny thing is that those people claim to be about the music get more heated in the he say she say on blogs/videos.
Can’t wait for the perfect life, and I hope that houseshoes and elzhi put out some music.
@ b.said
Again, what is this Black Spade beat-biting incident all about?
Ok, all bullcrap aside, be HUMANS FOR GOODNESS SAKE! People make mistakes, and for Charles sake, it wasn’t really a mistake. He was just showing admiration, but of course, people are going to misinterpret things and perceive them a certain way, just to prove a point. Look, you may not like Charles’s music, I’m not saying you have to, but really? Death threats? C’mon.
And the whole calling him arrogant and immature thing? I’m not a perfect person, but why do people get off calling other people immature? A true sign of maturity is to NOT SAY ANYTHING. And how can you blame someone for being arrogant in a genre that when you aren’t egotistical, you’re soft, and when you’re a so-called “Kanye” type, you’re an ass?
Can we just be human here?
This shit is ignorant! I like Big, alot. But that doesnt give me the right to say he EP my album! PERIOD
blog bully is one of the few cats spitting truth on here.
“he lies to get people as yourself fired up over nothing. you are just giving him another mixtape to write.” So true. but nobody…nobody, thinks about wirting when his teeth are on the ground
WHATEVER, that is some of the most ignorant, idealist shit Ive ever heard. The last way to show respect for someone is to put there name on something they had nothing to do with. to say hes an inspiration, yes. To say he himself EP’d the album, a disrespectful, bald-face LIE. So would I kill him, no. Do i understand them, yes. Historically, regions have adopted their artist. And when you disrespect a dead family member, people react in an extreme manner. Kanye is an aroogant ass. But i fuck with Kanye. I can be arrogant sometimes. Nobody wants to kill Kanye. Because although he is arrogant, he is mature enough to know that there is a line. To ignore or straight up not realise there is a line, IS immature. period
http://charleshamilton.blogspot.com/2009/06/guns-wont-do-and-music-is-enough-for-me.html
On the Real CH Hes Like The Punk everyBody Wants To Fuck Up At A Party But Still Let HIm SLide On By So On A Lighter NOte who Cares If He Said Taht Shit Let Legal Shit Handle That Ur Just Amusing The Kid By Gettin’ All Wild UP
Dilla is GOAT …i’ve never even heard a charles hamilton joint….ever. never appealed to me.
Wow….150+ comments later. The thing that disturbs me about the whole situation is that
1. He didn’t know the Yancey’s
2. If he didn’t even clear it with them, he definitely wasn’t going to give money to an non-existing group.
3. He is dropping it as a free album so he definitely can’t donate money.
So bottom line whether it was in honor or not, he wasn’t going to give money and he was just boosting his album credits with a lie. Which is not honorable. Write “Dilla Tribute” or something on the album.
BTW Charles is not Misunderstood! Get off that, he just lies and continues to lie because half of the fans can’t catch him or are too ignorant be able to tell when he is lying. Looking at this situation and the Black Spade (Which CH jacked Black Spade’s “Shining”, claimed that he made it to Black Spade’s face. When it was Spade’s voice sampled on the track itself. And didn’t want to admit it.) incident, all this tells me is that CH thinks his fans/music listeners are stupid.
He is now becoming the low grade Brittany Spears of Rap. People genuinely liked him as an Artist until all of this personal life stuff makes him seem more insane than credible and now his music is becoming less and less relevant.
LMAO at Shake having Charles on his top friends on Myspace.
http://www.myspace.com/dopeboyshake
Niggas to sensitive these days.
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lol bj yeah u right, its not that big a deal let it go shake……you lost
i lost? lmao… when did i even enter anything to lose? smh… and to BJ:
Last Login: 11/30/2008
try again.
still you lost.
come on bro, its not that big a deal just more reasons to hate on ch. if it was anybody else would you still be acting like a child about it??
LoL when some real niggaz get at CH he gonna be saying more than “But You punched me though!”
@thesikone STOP USING THE PHRASE “HATIN ON” WHEN PEOPLE HAVE NEGATIVE ENERGY FOR SOMEONE!!!!!!!!!!
CH fucked up with the Dilla shit, point blank period.
He has to face the music now, stop dickriding and worry about what the fuck it is you in life man.
who the fuck is from detroit on here? period. don’t fuckin say shit about dilla. don’t sample recs that he sampled. don’t talk about ma dukes. we all knew pink bitch aka gargles hamilton was a tiny bitch.
ABUSED.
shit people always like sheep, one person doin something wrong. One person shoutin about it on the internet, and the whole gang of sheep follows with even more hate)rel hate) . Like a bunch of schoolgirls. If ya wanna do good by J dilla, pray for the man, since people here on earth should pray the poeple that died.(islam)
Somethings wont never change.
“SMH” aka moving my cranium in a horizontal form to project disappointment. lol haha
better late than never. i wonder why no one ever picked up on the whole concept about this during the whole black spade incident? the same principles and ethics applied to this whole j dilla incident. maybe black spade wasn’t enough for people to care about but j dilla is? an artist is an artist… it doesn’t matter who’s name is more known over others.
on another note… Charles Hamilton… if you’re saying you had a spiritual and metaphysical experience with J Dilla, then MAYBE i can co-sign that because I dabble in that field as well… but understand that whatever you do, say, and project (because you choose to be in the public’s eye constantly) is subject for whatever interpretation as well as repercussion for your actions.
Now if you’re bullshitting about the spiritual, metaphysical experience you had with J Dilla’s spirit… that’s really some OTHER SHIT you’re fucking with… cuz now you’re saying some REALLY SUPER DEEP SHIT that REALLY SHOULDN’T BE FUCKED WITH. Charles if you think you’re the only deep cat in here who’s on some other shit then you should really get your head checked…
“J Dilla is a person who make a beat that is a minute to 2 minutes long and calls it a album? Charles makes some descent music. I could give a fuck less with what you type on a twitter page or a magazine. A big FUCK YOU to shake stating a opinion as a Random Acts of Fuckery.”
This the same lame rapper that siad he was going to bring new york back using the DOA instumental Hov murked. your a lame Josh East. Cant get your music posted so your a c-section gangster now? SMFH
charles talks a lot of shit…
@b. well said.
C.Hamilton is killing his ‘career’
did any of you lame fucks read his blog????
all of you owe ch a personal apology. dumbfcks
Shake, stop!!! Your making all these children cry!!! smh…
Again I say Charles Hamilton should do a mixtape called “Guidelines On How To Lose Fans” OR “Guidelines On How To Lose Your Career”
“did any of you lame fucks read his blog???? all of you owe ch a personal apology. dumbfcks”
we owe him an apology because he made up some “i knew him in a paranormal sense” bullshit? smfh.. how blind can some of you be? seriously.
All i see is someone paying respect to someone he respected. Yall are just proving the continuing ignorance that is in Hip Hop. Paranormal or no paranormal respect is respect. Some of yall need to look deeper than the surface cause things get blown out of proportion too easily
shake you just are a small minded fuck
lol….at yall coming up with excuses for him…..
Charles Hamiltn = FTL
Charles Hamilton makes good music.All that other shit don’t concern me.Make hip hop,not war!
Dude there “NIGGAS” Black and White are fuckin mad at what you said Charles, Dude on the real the D! don’t play when it comes to Dilla, shit Mos Def,De la soul,Pete Rock,Slum,Black Milk,Guilty,Trick Trick, and just everybody around the world dont play that kid jokin stuff. Yall see the news, what doeson in Detroit! unemployment,drugs,murder. U betta write a nice letter to Ma Dukes andthe whole click! oh yea itz CHUCK N HERTZ “THOSE70SGUYS WHAT UP DOE! ROCK YA D HAT!
@T.E.
“NEGATIVE ENERGY” who the fuck says that? homo. yes it is hating, theres always hating on ch, period. no he didnt fuck up with the dilla shit. it may have not been necassary, but he didnt fuck up either. really guys, WHO THE HELL CARES? JUST CONTINUE LIVING YOUR LIFE. its ok to dislike certain artists but stop blowin this outta proportion. fuckin idiots
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Get Known Radio / Royce Da 5′9″ on Charles Hamilton’s Dilla Remarks said this on June 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
I really am astounded by how gullible everyone is… and the fact that he can do whatever he chooses, lie to cover a lie and that’s okay. I don’t care about dilla getting credit (But he still didn’t exec produce the album) but I care about all the lying that continued afterward.
ALSO, why does everyone fall into the hate or stan categories? What he said and did makes no real logical sense, period. No excuse for lying and not checking what you say first.
Also, delusions of grandiosity will get you a nice white jacket. Now because he like Dilla so much he thinks he was visited by him in a dream. WTF makes him so special that instead of visiting his fam or a little kid dying of some disease some where that dilla visits a relative unknown when he died.
Let the music talk. Don’t give a damn about the other shit.
haha fucking CH, so terrible.
the fact remains that he doesn’t know dilla or his mom. Then there’s no need to say anything.
Have a line in your liner notes saying, “thank you to dilla for giving me the inspiration to do my music”…not, “Dilla produced my shit, thanks ma dukes”….which by the way, is a nickname for Dilla’s mom which I’m sure is/was used as a term of endearment to people who know her.
In Detroit, Dilla created an entire scene and sound of the city. Every cat, new and old from the city looked up to him and was influenced by his sound. Dilla is a Detroit legend and everyone loved him.
There was no need for Charles Hamilton to say anything about Dilla other than what I said he should say in his liner notes.
Everyone look on youtube for the interview where Jay Electronica speaks on how Dilla influenced him. THAT is paying homage and showing respect…not what this claffy CH did.
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Random Diss Track « The Random Blog About Nothing said this on June 15th, 2009 at 11:53 am
if yall gonna get mad at charles hamilton for crediting dilla as excutive producer, then you might as well get mad at all these people who’s making songs and mixtapes using dilla beats. i don’t see anyone talking shit about termanology putting out that wack as dilla mixtape earlier this year
CHARLES HAMILTON DID NOT EVEN STEAL THE BEAT. LIKE MANY COMMON PRODUCERS IN HIP HOP, HE SAMPLED IT. LISTEN CLOSELY TO EACH OF THE INSTRUMENTAL, CHARLES HAMILTON ADDED DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTALS THAN TO WHAT BLACK SPADE HAD AND USED DIFFERENT PARTS. IF CHARLES HAMILTON STOLE THIS BEAT AND USED IT AS HIS, YOU GUYS ARE SAYING THAT J-DILLA, WHO WAS A BEAT-MAKING PIONEER IS A BEAT-MAKING THIEF. THINK ABOUT IT.
id like to hear that charles hamilton’s body was found hanging from a lamp post, raped, beaten and mutilated. not dead though. i want him to suffer and live with shame for the rest of his life. this ki has a fucking mouth on him, an absolutely nothing to bsck it up. if he opened his mouth to me, i would fuck him up. seriously people let this pinkfaggot get away with too much bullshit,
wow i never knew the whole story on this
BIG fail on hamilton’s part
crediting dilla = misguided but still done out of love
lying about a bunch of shit = ignorant
beefing with those detroiters = reckless and ALL KINDS OF STUPID
http://www.whereischarleshamilton.com/2010/06/charles-hamilton-explains-dilla-and.html
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